(this post is inspired by a recent post on Michael Mock’s blog)
Dear Mom and Dad,
It will soon be nine years since I pastored a church, nine years since Polly was called the “pastor’s wife.” This Thanksgiving it will be four years since we attended a church on a Sunday. I know this dramatic change in our lives frightens and troubles you. As devout Christians, I am sure you pray for us daily. Maybe we are even on the Church prayer list.
Knowing you like I do, I am sure our current life breaks your heart and you have shed more than a few tears over the state of our soul. I am sure you believe that God is faithful and that he will honor your prayers and move in our hearts bringing us to repentance. I have no doubt you fear what God might have to do to us to get our attention.
Perhaps you blame me for all of this. You have known me for a long, long time. You know my strengths and weaknesses. You know about my struggles with depression and you know how up and down I can be. Perhaps you think I have always been a “troubled” person. Surely, I am to blame…
I can’t stop you from blaming me. I have many faults………but….don’t we all? Polly has spent most of her life being treated like she is a lemming. She rarely, if ever, is given credit for thinking for herself. I guess I understand this. In the Independent Baptist world, the man is the head of the home. He is the decision maker. He rules the roost.
When I met Polly 36 years ago she was a quiet girl that rarely talked. She kept her opinions to herself. She starting dating a fast talking, ever talking, opinionated, temperamental man. Six month later we were engaged and 34 years ago we married. For decades our marriage was a typical American Christian marriage. I was the breadwinner, the head of the home. Polly kept the home, took care of the children, and made sure there was food on the table every night for dinner. She was a perfect picture of the good Christian wife.
So I understand when people think that Polly left Christianity because I did, that she doesn’t believe anymore because I don’t believe anymore. This makes sense IF the Polly of today is the same as the Polly I married in 1978.
The Polly of today still bears the image of the young girl I married 34 years ago. She is still a quiet, loving, and kind person. She is still willing to selflessly sacrifice for her family. In many ways she is her mother’s daughter. (and that is meant as a huge compliment)
In other ways though, the Polly of today is very different from the Polly I married. She is much more assertive. She is much more willing to make decisions on her own. Having to enter the workforce helped with this transformation as did having a sick, disabled husband. Going back to college fulltime, while working a fulltime job, did more for Polly than anything else in her life. No longer was she in the shadow of her preacher husband. No longer was she the “pastor’s wife.”
Polly is a supervisor at her place of employment. She received this promotion because of her hard work, Her work, not mine. She did well in college because of her own hard work. She has learned though all of this that she can stand on her own two feet, she can be her own person. No longer is she the wife of Bruce Gerencser, the pastor of such-and-such Church. Oh, she is still my wife but she is much more than that now.
Polly and I had to leave the ministry and Christianity to find ourselves. Our lives had been swallowed up by our religion, the church, the ministry, and the expectations everyone had for us. Simply put, we lost ourselves in Jesus. Our thoughts and emotions were swallowed up by “thus saith the Lord.” Of course, such a life was encouraged and applauded. We had died to self and were alive unto Christ.
Polly and I agreed together to stop attending Church. At this juncture in our lives I made it clear that I would no longer be the spiritual leader or guide for our family. Everyone was free to choose their own path, to answer the “God” question for themselves.
This was new ground for us. For decades I was the “final answer.” I determined what everyone believed. I was, after all, a God called, Holy Spirit powered pastor. Now everyone, Polly included, was free to be whatever they wanted to be.
I spent a lot of time re-reading the Bible and re-investigating the claims of Christianity. As always, I read a lot of books. Over time I came to see that the Bible was not a supernatural book and that the supernatural claims of the Bible could not be sustained.
As a result of carefully considering the claims of Christianity I came to the conclusion that the Christian God did not exist. I knew I could no longer call myself a Christian.
Polly read “some” of the books I did but she has never been a big non-fiction fan. I have never questioned her about the process or the reasons “why” she stopped believing. I accept her decision to not believe without question. She is free to believe whatever she wants to believe. If she wanted to go back to church I would not have a problem with it. When I says she is FREE, I mean totally, absolutely FREE. (as are our children)
We talk frequently about religion, the Bible, church signs, and this or that book we are reading. Now that Polly is done with school she will have a lot more time to read. When we talk it is not in an attempt to convince one another of anything. We just talk…….and leave it at that. Sometimes we have serious discussions and sometimes we spend time talking about the past, our lives as pastor and wife. We talk, talk, talk……..and then Polly starts snoring.
In many ways Polly is more adamant in her unbelief than I am. I know this is hard to believe. Granted, she isn’t a writer like I am, but with her actions she shows the strength of her unbelief. On more than one occasion I have said,”would you like to go to Such-and Such church to see ________________” and the answer is always a quick, terse NO!
Polly is her own person as am I. After decades of living under the thumb of Jesus we are now free to embrace who we really are. We are free to be Bruce and Polly without any modifiers added to our name. We have had a rebirth, a rebirth that allows us to freely embrace life as it is and this us allows to be authentic human beings.
Does this mean we are radically different people? Yes and No. How we think and what we think is important has changed dramatically. No longer does our priority list begin with God, the church, and the ministry. Now our priority list begins with self, family, and friends.
In many ways we don’t live much differently than we did when we were Christians. We still have many of the same values we had when we were Christians. Yes, our politics have changed. We are much more liberal these days but this change began while I was still a pastor. We are still the same kind, loving, giving, compassionate people we always were. Maybe even more so now since our motivation is no longer, “to please God.” We do what we do because we want to.
When it comes to the social aspects of life, what we are “willing” to do has changed a good bit. Our language is saltier. We no longer feign offense when someone cusses on TV or when there is a sex scene. We are now free to watch what we want. We no longer consider “what would Jesus do?” The only criteria is, “what do Bruce and Polly want to do?” And our sex life? Well…..all I dare say is that life is g—o—o—d!
In most every way, we are happier now than we ever have been. (not that we were extremely unhappy before) Our marriage continues to grow and mature. Yes, we still fight. Yes, we still have conflict and disagreement, but we love each other more today than we ever have. When I tell you our marriage is great, awesome, fantastic, believe me, it is. We have struggles just like everyone does. It is not easy for Polly having a husband that is disabled, a husband who can’t drive, who can’t do many of the things he used to do. It is not easy having a husband that struggles with depression most every day of his life. And it is not easy having a wife who thinks you put oil in the car when the red light comes on.
We have learned to accept the deficiencies we each have. We have stopped trying to change each other. We are who we are, and we do our best to ignore the things in each other that irritates us. It is not easy. In many ways, we are very, very different from each other…….but we make it work.
We take seriously the vow we made to each other 34 years ago…….til death do us part. Some days we want to make til death do us part happen real soon, but most days we live in hope of some day seeing our great-great grandchildren.
Don’t worry about us. We are fine. The root of our marriage runs deep and we are resilient. We continue to walk hand in hand, even if my hands are on the armrests and Polly’s hands are on the wheelchair. (and even if Polly is thinking…hmm……I am sorry officer I just lost control of the wheelchair and it rolled down the hill)
While we no longer share a religious connection with you, we still remain your children. Nothing can ever change that. We love you, and no matter what happens in your life we will be right by your side. As we have told you many times, if the time ever comes that you can’t live in your home, our home is your home. Like with our marriage, our relationship with you is “til death do us part.”
While we may not share your religious beliefs we respect your beliefs. I know I have written many strong words about the Christian religion and I make no apology for doing so. That said, we have no desire to rob you of your sincerely-held religious beliefs. That’s why we don’t talk about religious matters with you or around you. If you ask or want to know we will be glad to talk about religion but unless you ask we will never utter a word.
We share so many things in common. A love of nature. A love of travel. A love of good food. Grandkids. You are not young any more and neither are we. Instead of allowing religion to divide us or ruin our relationship, let’s focus on the things that we have in common. I know this might not be easy for you. You worry about our soul. You worry about God judging us. Let your God handle those things and let’s enjoy the shared life we have. Life is short. Let’s lustily enjoy what life remains. The days, hours, and minutes are clicking off so quickly now. Let’s not put off til tomorrow those things we want to do together.
Here’s what Polly and I want from you, what we have always wanted from you. Your love, and as much as lies within you, your support.
I know it is hard for you coming to terms with this “new” life we have chosen. I don’t know of any way to make it easier for you. Both Polly and I are on a journey. Sometimes we journey together and other times we wander off on our own. Our desire is to walk the path of life with honesty and integrity. Wherever the path leads we want to go, even if we end up walking a path less traveled.
With much love,
Bruce
***My parents are dead. Polly’s parents are still alive. Communication has always been difficult and over the years we took to writing letters to convey our thoughts and feelings. We were told a few years ago, please no more letters, so this letter is what I WOULD write if I was sending Polly’s parents a letter about our deconversion from Christianity.

Even though I differ with you, that is a powerfully well written letter, and it honors both Polly and her parents. I’m not so sure I wouldn’t keep it and consider sending it. Maybe they’ll read it here?
Beautiful. Wish my Mother wasn’t insane, I’d copy this and send it to her.
“After decades of living under the thumb of Jesus we are now free to embrace who we really are. We are free to be Bruce and Polly without any modifiers added to our name. We have had a rebirth, a rebirth that allows us to freely embrace life as it is and this us allows to be authentic human beings.”
Bruce, that paragraph made me think that if there was a loving god in heaven, that’s exactly what he would want you to do. You know, religion doesn’t necessarily have to be awful. But people make it so. I always say that if we have to make up a god, we should create a nice one.
Great letter! Of course, praying for you would make no difference even if there is a God, as theoretically he had planned your life for you in advance and so knew you and Polly would leave the church, and he did nothing to prevent that happening. Such a God obviously has you in his good books already!
It is good to know that I am still doing God’s will.
*sigh*
That’s the kind of letter I wish I could send my folks…but I doubt I ever
will.
I have never told my immediate family that I am no longer a Christian, not even
my brother, who would probably be able to deal with it. Not that I think they
would be surprised, really. They have to be aware that I don’t attend church,
and I’m never asked to say grace when we’re all together any more, though I bow
my head with the rest. But that final leap? “Mom, Daddy…I don’t believe
there is such a thing as god”? I can’t do it. Best leave them that little
bit of hope that I still believe but just don’t do the “religion thing.”
Shit, how can I come out as an atheist when just telling them I was bisexual
was so traumatic? I wasn’t even involved with anyone, male or female, at the
time. They were so scared. They were
really, truly afraid that I was in danger of going to hell. In almost every
conceivable way, this was a more painful reaction than if they’d gotten angry
or disgusted and condemned me to the pit themselves. That’s the trouble: they
care too much.
I know they’ve changed since then. I know Mom has managed to rationalize a
hopeful version of almost-universalist last-minute-redemption soteriology, at
least, but I just can’t face their (probable) reactions. I can’t bear the
thought of their pain and fear.
Maybe I’m underestimating them – maybe they’ve changed more
than I know, but I’m too afraid to test them. My cowardice and my love for them keep me silent. I hope it’s for the best;
certainly right now, it’s all I can
do.
(Ugh. That was painful. I think I’m glad today that I’m
basically anonymous here.)
Thanks for sharing this.
You are wise to proceed carefully. Once you out yourself there is no going back. I always counsel people to consider carefully the cost.
People do change but not as much as we think, Sometimes they don’t change as much as they simply, for sake of a continued relationship accept the “new” you. True change requires a lot of hard work and that is why we don’t do it very often.
Your comment here is greatly appreciated, It adds another personal touch to the discussion.
Bruce
If an intelligent regard for consequences is cowardice, all thoughtful people are cowards. Be gentle with yourself. Best wishes.
Thanks, Bruce, exrelayman. I think it’s just that sometimes I can’t tell the difference between my fear of confrontation and real concern for long-term consequences. ^_^;
WOW! I can only imagine the tears in your eyes as you wrote that. And for the record, my wife is a “pastor’s wife” and I think that job SUCKS! I actually wonder if we would get along better if I had a different vocation. Thanks for sharing.
Welcome, and thanks for commenting.
Bruce,
I definitely hear your pain. I was raised in the IFB environment. I finally was able to break free from the chains, but it was through salvation in Christ. I fear that man (through satanic efforts) have totally duped you into your thinking. There is only freedom in Christ. I now am free to do whatever I want (with my conscience and the Holy Spirit as my guide). I even enjoy adult beverages, cigars, and a very healthy sex life with my wife of 24 years.
I guess my encouragement is this: Don’t stop searching. God is good, He is real and He truly can offer your REAL, GENUINE freedom through Christ.
Sincerely,
J
J,
Let me tell you how this sounds.
“Find what I have and then you will have the REAL deal…”
All you have done is change ice cream flavors.
You don’t think my conscience and the Holy Spirit was my guide when I was a Christian? Sure they were. You wrongly assume that your new, improved version which allows you do do more of the things you always wanted to do is THE right way to live. Maybe you are actually backslidden or worldly or etc, etc, etc.
It is all bullshit…..regardless of the flavor.
I continue to search but there is no need to dig through the garbage cans of discarded philosophies to see if there is a tiny morsel to eat.
Bruce
???Wait a second…He doesn’t exist so how could He have guided you? I fear you have misunderstood me. Being a Jesus freak isn’t about rules it’s about relationship.
Dude, you need to read what you just wrote. “It’s all bullshit…regardless of flavor”. – Really – then your “philosophy” is bullshit, am I right? Why “continue to search” if it’s all just bullshit…Just eat, drink and be merry!!! Right???
j
The bullshit is Christianity regardless of the flavor. I have weighed it in the balances and found it wanting. You wrongly assume I have not considered your flavor. I have no need to return to Egypt….
At the “time” I thought God existed. Since ALL religious belief begins as a cultural, environmental construct, I believed, like you now I do that the Holy Spirit guided me. Then, like you now, I could not PROVE that, I just believed.