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IFB Pastor Bob Gray Shows His True Colors

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Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) pastor, Bob Gray (not the pedophile pastor Bob Gray from Jacksonville, Florida) pastored the Longview Baptist Temple in Longview Texas for over thirty years. Gray turned the church franchise over to his son and became a traveling preacher. He blogs at Solving Church Problems.

Bob Gray is a prototypical, Sword of the Lord, Jack Hyles loving IFB preacher. He preaches an antinomian, one-two-three repeat after me, pray the sinners prayer,  easy-believism gospel, and he is what is called a hyper-soulwinner. Gray is of the opinion that winning souls to Jesus is the only thing that really matters. Gray, a consummate bean counter, can tell you right down to the individual how many people he has personally won to Christ and how many people were won to Christ under his ministry.

Over the years, Gray and the Longview Baptist Temple won more souls to Christ than actually live in Longview Texas. While the Longview Baptist Temple grew to be quite large under Gray’s ministry, the number of souls saved far outnumbered the number of people baptized and added to the church membership. Gray, like many of his ilk, is only concerned with people  “getting saved.” If they never get baptized or become a part of the church? Regrettable, but hey…there are more souls to save. (he was taught this philosophy by his idol Jack Hyles)

Gray is a big supporter of Jack Hyles. He is insistent, to this day, that Jack Hyles was a tower of virtue and that he never did the things he was accused of. (I believe Gray attended Hyles Anderson College) Recently, Gray has taken to his blog to defend the IFB over charges of widespread abuse and sexual misconduct. While he admits Jack Schaap, pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond Indiana, should not have had sex with a 16/17-year-old girl in his church, he is quick to suggest that Schaap’s behavior is not typical of what goes on in IFB churches.

Enter one Jeri Massi. Jeri Massi is a former IFB church member who blogs at Blog on the Way, Information and Resources to assist victims of church abuse in Christian Fundamentalism.

Jeri is an acquaintance of mine. While we disagree with one another on religion, she being a Christian and me being an atheist, we both agree that sexual and emotional abuse is quite widespread in IFB churches. We both agree that these abuses should be exposed to the light of day.

Recently, Jeri did a post on corporate repentance. Her post evidently got under Gray’s skin and he has taken to his blog to attack Jeri Massi. His response to her is funny (and childish)  and it reveals what kind of man Gray really is. It also reveals the lengths some IFB preachers will go to protect the IFB kingdom.

In a blog post titled,WRITING WRONGS-It is Time to Call The Forums and Blogs for What They Are, Gray wrote:

…Enter “Christian” forums and Blogs that attempt to copy the style of expose journalism.  They make it their business to expose things that are really none of any ones business.  I expect the lost world to gossip and slander, but I expect better of Christians.

Do not misunderstand me.  I believe the internet is a wonderful place to fight error and to teach truth.  However, when it comes to matters of a local church, many times they become a place to learn the latest “scoop.”

How is it that heathens like Tricia Lacriox or Jeri Massi can be “trusted” vehicles of information that they and their fellow demonettes desire ONLY for the purpose of destruction?  Why would we go to them for our information?  Worse yet why would we believe their information?

The answer to that question is troubling.  I hear people say it is because that is the only place they find out what is going on. WAIT!   Why do you need to find out what is going on and why would you trust avowed enemies to the cause of Christ to be your informers?  That is nonsense!  It is also evil!  Let me help you with something. You do not need to know!

Allow me to give you an example.  Where do these information streetwalkers receive their information?  A church is dealing with a situation that is horrible.  Someone on the inside has information and they give it to the proper authorities in their church and for their ears only.  These authorities deal with the problem.

However, there are evil individuals with info who are moles and who will be judged of God for their wickedness.  They garner information  not for the purpose of helping, but for sharing with those in bloggers sphere who disdain soul winning independent Baptist churches.

Do they report the number of souls saved the previous week, the number of converts baptized, the Sunday school attendance, the lives salvaged, or any good being done?  NO! They are like vultures who do not see the beauty, but rather only the carcases of the dead.

These are haters of soul winning churches.  Their STATED goal is to destroy those soul winning churches. They want these churches to go away so they find the things they can use to condemn and twist in order to accomplish their goal.  THEN, WE READ IT!?!?

These forums and blogs create arguments, bickering, slander, strife, and discord among the brethren.  These demonettes rejoice because they have accomplished their goal of casting a curse on that which they despise.  Anyone who questions them is then attacked for “covering sin” or “enabling sinners.”  These demonettes are morons! They have no idea what they are writing about…

In a blog post titled, Jeri Massi—Liar Liar Pants on Fire!, Gray wrote:

…I am appalled at the sins of those who besmirch the office of ministry as well as any one, man or woman, who do such despicable acts, but I refuse to indict a whole community because of a few.

I think we are all accountable in some respects because we do not walk closely enough with God to be able to spot such people.  However, I know of no one who on purpose allows such things to occur. I only know of gossips who paint a picture without really knowing the truth.

Then people like you Jeri carry their water to incriminate good churches who are doing their best to deal with such wicked people.  Get the facts Jeri.

Again, you did not call me.  You did not seek the other side of the story and you made a BIG mistake by not doing so.  Which makes me wonder about others who have been smeared by your lap top gossip.

If they are guilty lock them up! I have no problem letting people know who the predators are. But, do not indict everyone.  Check out the Scriptures on being a false accuser Jeri!

Why do we go soul winning?  Because of the fact that “All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Let me see if I understand you correctly…we should not go soul winning because of wicked men who do wicked things? Maybe that is why God does not call women to be pastors.  Logic like yours deserves to be studied? Ha!

Jeri Massi, you are in this for you. I have been in the ministry for 40 years and have given my life to help the hurting while your claim to fame is living off of victims.

If you were an honest person you would have contacted me before running to your blog to condemn something you knew nothing of except through the eyes of those haters who lie and supply you with slop.

Why don’t you put out your cigar, shut your Hollywood movies off, put away your favorite beer, find a good Christian man to marry, have some babies, and get a real life!

“Run if you want to, hide if you will, but I came here to stay!”

In a blog post titled, I Owe Jeri Massi an Apology, Gray wrote:

Please forgive me Jeri!  I was under a wrong impression and it really grieves me that I did not see the truth.  I did not really know you and I was under a false judgment.

I did know your brother Vince for we graduated together at Hyles-Anderson College.   I really liked your brother. I know you and him have had some misunderstandings, but let that be as it may.

I just want to make this thing right with you before it really got out of hand.  You see this is a real problem among those of us who are independent Baptist people.  IF we are not careful we assume facts not in evidence.

Of  course, we are not a denomination and have no headquarters and our only rule of faith and practice is the King James Bible.  This is what brings us together.

Thus, we are in loose association with each other organizational wise.  We come together based on a Bible principle of “mutual faith.”  As a result we are drawn together not by a political or corporate entity but by “mutual faith.” We have no elections and we have no president for we only have our mutual beliefs.  Each church is independent of the others.

It is absolutely wrong of me to have entered into this with you at the level I did. Please forgive me! May we go back to the beginning and start over in our conversation. Maybe we can come to a consensus and help many of your friends in the internet forum world at the same time?

Many of these others, with whom you associate, I am just now starting to get my mind wrapped around who they are.  I do sense that there is a longing and a searching among you and your friends for truth.  I do not dispute that at all.  I do however think we have all started off on the wrong foot.  Hopefully we can rectify this.

May I begin with Scriptures please?

Romans 3:10, “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:”

Romans 3:23, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

Romans 6:23a, “For the wages of sin is death…”

Revelation 20:14, “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”

Romans 5:8, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were sinners, Christ died for us.”

Romans 6:23b, “…but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Ephesians 2:8-9, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Romans 10:9, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

Romans 10:13, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Now Jeri would you like to trust Jesus Christ to pay for all of your past sins, present sins, and future sins?  If so would you bow in your heart and ask Christ to save you.

I can provide a prayer to help you if you would like, but remember a prayer is just words and a prayer cannot save you.  A prayer is communication between you and Christ.  Jeri, many people are saved before they ever utter a word or walk an aisle in church.  So, if you in child like faith will open your soul and let Jesus know you want to trust Him He will save your soul.

Jesus is a perfect gentleman for He will not force His way into your soul. Jeri, it is not the shed blood, but the shed and applied blood that cleanses a man’s soul.

Jeri I again must apologize I did not realize until I saw your love for Buddha of your basic beliefs.  I apologize for mocking your cigars, your love for beer, your love for the filth of Hollywood, and so on.  No one can be saved by quitting cigars, movies, or liquor.  It is faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ that saves a person from  going to Hell.

It did not dawn on me of your spiritual condition. Again, I am so sorry!

Matthew 15:14, “Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”

Jeri, you are blind and have a spiritual vail over your eyes and truly cannot see.  Again, I am sorry I did not see this in the beginning. It appears I assumed something that was just not true about you. JUST A THOUGHT!

Gray concludes, based on what she has written, that Jeri Massi is not a Christian. But wait, Dr Bob, Jeri prayed the sinners prayer. Doesn’t that make her a Christian no matter how she lives or what she says?  According to Gray’s soteriology, even a Christian turned atheist like me is still a Christian. Once saved, always saved…what a deal.

I have no idea about the veracity of the issues Jeri Massi has blogged about. I do know her past work that I have read has been accurate and I have no reason to believe she is not being accurate now. The real issue in not what Jeri wrote. Gray is upset that he has no control over what she writes. Gray, the misogynistic man that he is, is furious he can’t force Jeri to submit to his authority or any other authority for that matter.

Gray wrote one line that pretty well reveals where he is coming from. He says to Jeri:

Why don’t you put out your cigar, shut your Hollywood movies off, put away your favorite beer, find a good Christian man to marry, have some babies, and get a real life!

The internet has empowered writers to bring to light the dark secrets of the IFB church movement. Prior to the internet, the IFB gatekeepers could control the flow of information. Not any more. Now there are countless writers airing the dirty laundry of the IFB church movement. Men like Gray are watching their kingdom slip away and there is nothing they can do about it except throw a childish temper tantrum like he did in the blog posts mentioned above.

Dr. Bob, if you are reading this,  I have a message from God for you and the IFB church movement:

Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin

Or in English…God has numbered your kingdom and finished it, You have been weighed in the balances and found wanting, Your kingdom has been divided and given to churches and pastors who love people and don’t abuse them. (Daniel 5 with a slight Bruce Gerencser twist)

Repost from October 2012

Published: August 29, 2013 | Comments: 22