John Piper, chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary, former pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, and the father of Christian hedonism, had this to say at the 2015 Desiring God Conference for Pastors:
“Look around in your life, in your church. How many Christians do you see bent with all their powers to know God more and more — more truly, more clearly, more sweetly? Or, rather, do you see thousands fighting graduate school sins with a grammar school knowledge of God?”
Some of you might say, ‘Wait, there are as many PhDs in theology who commit adultery as less-educated people.’ To which I would say, ‘Probably more.’ Why is it that people with PhDs in theology commit adultery? They don’t know God.”
“You can read theology 10 hours a day for 40 years and not know God as beautiful and all-satisfying — as the highest treasure of your life. Who cares about knowing God the way the devil knows God? He hates everybody. His knowledge of God helps him hate people.”
“We’re talking about knowing God here in 1 Thessalonians. They don’t know God. They don’t know God for who He is — infinitely valuable, infinitely beautiful, infinitely satisfying — why your soul was made. There are more pleasures at His right hand, more eternal joys in His presence, than you could have in 10,000 sexual trysts.
“The question is, do you know that? If you know that, sin will have lost its dominion in your life,”
No commentary from me. The headline is what came to my mind as I read the news story about Piper’s sermon. I know . . . so depraved.
Bruce Gerencser, 66, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 45 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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This guy is… icky. Thank you for being in the trenches in dealing with these folks. You have my gratitude.
His theology makes me sick and my attempts at one time to embrace them were just about the end of me. I can’t read or listen to anything he says. 🙁
They really are obsessed with sex! Sounds so much like the: “Jesus is your boyfriend stuff.” I knew there was another solution to my single state. Blech…
He knows this….how?
Better phrased, “I would imagine that there are more pleasures at His right hand, more eternal joys in His presence, than you could have in 10,000 sexual trysts.” Unless he’s really prolific at getting busy….365 days a year for almost 3 decades.
As an aside, it’s a great example of that either/or mindset. Either you find your pleasure in God or you have 10,000 illicit sexual trysts, which will not make you happy. What about a moderate approach where you find pleasure in your beliefs and values (what they may call “god”) AND find pleasure in the routines of life: food, drink, sex, a warm sunny day, laughter, etc?
Hmmmmm. Interesting. I may have to give serious thought to returning to The Lord
There are more pleasures at His right hand, more eternal joys in His presence, than you could have in 10,000 sexual trysts.
So he’s saying God gives really good handjobs?
Aw, you *beat* me to it…
Rotflmfao!!
What a jerk (pun intended) with unanswered latent homosexual tendencies. Why do so many people take this asshole seriously? Why are we surprised that he spews shit, that’s what assholes do.
say what? I Wonder if he would say the exact same thing had his wife not wanted to have sex with him. That’s when I would take this seriously not now that he has had sex and is satisfied.
How does John Piper know that? He has never held hands with God. No human has. He has never been laid 10,000 times by good looking women. Few people ever have been—except maybe ancient King Solomon or Kim Jong Un. These fundie preachers are just like Barney Fife. You beat all Barney Piper!!! You beat all Barney Piper!!! You beat all—and probably your own meat more than any women.
Well, there are all sorts of sexual fetishes – this guy has one for his deity. Kinky.
Listen to this idiot regarding spanking:
The man is polite sociopath as I hear him… full of shit.
Someone doesn’t get laid much.
This John Piper is a nut case. He needs to visit a professional psychiatrist to have his mental well being assessed. He thinks that there are more pleasures that exist from a non existent being than actual sex with a real person. He’s loony!
I was wondering how they were going to make an eternity in Heaven tolerable. God does hand jobs!!
Ohhh this poor man.
Poor, poor little man and his Sky Daddy complex.
XOXO