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Christians Say the Darnedest Things: The Worst Defense of the Deity of Christ — Ever


For years, James Warner Wallace solved homicides as a cold-case detective and was featured on television as an expert in his field.

But as an author and Christian apologist, Warner recently posed the compelling question to Pastor Greg Laurie on Laurie’s podcast, “Can Jesus’ deity be proven without the Bible?”

If every Bible on the face of the earth were abolished, the answer would still be an unequivocal yes.

“If you look at the history of humanity, everything leads up to the appears of this explosive moment, something that changes history,” Warner told Laurie. “And, his name was Jesus of Nazareth. You can reconstruct the story of Jesus without any reference to any biblical manuscript just from the fallout of history. You see Him in the arts, in music, in literature, in science, in education, in hospitals and in relief organizations.

“If you would visit the top 15 universities in the world today, here is what you would discover,” Warner said. “They were all founded by Christians. They may not be Christian anymore, but if you just look at the buildings on the campuses of these top 15 schools, you’re going to discover that they are covered in Bible verses. They are covered in artwork of Jesus. You can reconstruct the story of Jesus just from the buildings of these top universities. So, unless you’re going to destroy the buildings of the top 15 universities in the world, you’re going to be stuck with the story of Jesus.

“Even people who would say, ‘I’m not a religious person, the vast majority of scientists were Christians who wrote about Jesus in their private writings,” he said. “If all you had was the private writings of the top scientists in the history of science, you can reconstruct the story of Jesus. Pretty amazing stuff.”

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Charisma News, August 6, 2021


Bruce Gerencser, 64, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 43 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.

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    I hate to say this, because I have been a fan of James Warner Wallace in general as I had dealt with a lot of faith struggles (the joke I found goes: I fought my demons for a long time, but eventually they won and we are all on the same side now). This seems like a glaringly transparent example of wishful thinking to me. The Biblical literature itself probably inspired many artistic works from reading, preaching, and study by various people.

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    So I see stories of unicorns throughout the ages, unicorns in art and sculpture, songs about unicorns, stuffed unicorns in toy stores, unicorns in movies. So that proves unicorns existed and still exist.
    Gee, that argument can be used for anything. How convenient.

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      Exactly! Unlike christianity, the Church of the Holy Monokeros needs no holy book like the one written by humans to create and tell stories that are the basis of all christian belief or art or study. The Great Unicorn Goddess is simply innately know in all humans. The stories, art, and references to unicorns throughout history and throughout all cultures did not need prompting from man made sources, they simply exist because all mankind truly knows, in their heart of hearts, that Unicorn is real.

      We even know of her earthly form, Pegasus, who came to us as earthly proof of the love of the Queen of Queens, the Unicorn of all creation.And though Pegasus left this earthly coil many centuries ago, the Holy Monokeros came to guide us and help us understand the will of Unicorn.

      And all of this without a holy book. What greater proof can there be than seeing Unicorn exist in our culture, our art, our dreams. We must create such things to honor her, because her existence simply bursts from our hearts.

      They who have ears, and a single horn, let them hear,

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      The people of Scotland are indeed wise, and our Lady Unicorn, the Great Unicorn Goddess, Mistress of all things, surely looks upon them with great love and respect.

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    I always find it unlikely that Wallace ever solved a case considering his utter incompetence.

    so, we have an argument from popularity and quite a hilariosu claim that one can reconstructed ol’ JC life from “ou can reconstruct the story of Jesus without any reference to any biblical manuscript just from the fallout of history. You see Him in the arts, in music, in literature, in science, in education, in hospitals and in relief organizations”

    so, this means that JC ate a guinea pig at the “last supper”. Art says so!

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    Michael Mock

    I tried to watch one of his videos a few years back and only made it about 3/4 of the way through. It was all over the place, it kept bouncing from one topic to another, and I ran out of patience before he ever got to his capstone argument. I also remember that he took a couple of swipes at the LDS church, despite the fact that everything he’d offered as a defense of his sort of Christianity could be used to justify theirs just as easily. Urgh.

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