A Former Atheist Lets Me Know What He Thinks of Me

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I recently received an email from a seventy-five-year-old attorney — a former atheist — who wanted me to know exactly what he thought about me and my deconversion from Christianity. Much of the letter was spent on the man telling me how smart he was and how he came to learn that materialistic atheism (his definition) is “the one ism I can say with near-certainty is flat-out false.” What does he believe?

I am content with a belief in a higher intelligence, a genuine meaning and purpose to human existence, and the continuation of consciousness after physical death – all because this is where I believe the best evidence firmly points.

Okay? And he felt the need to share this with me why, exactly? I have been an atheist for seventeen years. In all those years, I have never gone to someone’s blog or social media page unsolicited to attack their religious beliefs or deconstruct their story. I don’t understand the logic behind such behavior other than it makes the person passing judgment feel right or superior. Explain his motivation for saying things to me such as:

  • No need to respond, because I’m not really interested in you either!
  • I am somewhat older than you (75), highly educated, and have traveled a not-dissimilar path. However, my landing spot was entirely different and has left me, I hope, less bitter and consumed by anger than you seem to be.
  • The posts of yours that I have read strike as exemplifying the familiar figure of someone who once bought into beliefs that are patently silly, felt angry and betrayed when the silliness finally became apparent to him, and now harbors deep anger and bitterness beneath a not-very-convincing facade of “atheist liberation.”
  • I have to wonder to what extent your current position reflects an atheism that is more a knee-jerk embracing of beliefs that are the polar opposite of what you formerly believed (or at least pretended to believe) than a genuine commitment arrived at after a diligent exploration of the best evidence and arguments.
  • As much as I have enjoyed Bart Ehrman’s work, this was definitely his path as well – “If what I formerly believed isn’t 100% true, none of it is true.” This is a very lazy and short-sighted approach to the big questions.

To summarize, this man thinks:

  • I am bitter (stated twice)
  • I am consumed by anger (stated three times)
  • My deconversion was a knee-jerk reaction to Christianity
  • I took a lazy and short-sighted approach to the big questions of life

None of these claims is true, as I have made abundantly clear in numerous posts over the years. This means that this man has either not invested much, if any, time in reading what I actually wrote about my journey or he has constructed in his mind a straw man of the Evangelical-turned-atheist Bruce Gerencser. I suspect both are likely true.

This man declared, “All I care about, or have ever cared about, is what is ultimately, ontologically True.” To that I reply, “Not me.” I care about a lot of things of life, but “what is ultimately, ontologically True” doesn’t make my top ten list of important things to care about in life. Sorry, but I am sixty-eight and in poor health. I am on the short side of life. Knowing this, I focus on that which matters the most to me: my partner of forty-seven years, our six adult children and their spouses, our sixteen grandchildren, and, yes, our cats — both the four inside cats, and ten or more outside cats (all of which are either stay or feral animals).

Christianity told me that the Bible had the answers to the big questions of life. I learned that this claim is false; that religion has no better (and sometimes worse) answers to these questions than secular worldviews. People are free to ponder their purpose, meaning, and whether there is life after death, but we are under no obligation to do so. For me personally, life is too short to spend much time pondering what life might be instead of living life every day to its fullest.

My reply to this man was direct:

Why did you write me? Your email is no different from those I receive from Fundamentalist Christians. Your false judgements reveal you haven’t read much of my autobiographical material. 

Try harder, friend.

As of the writing of this post, I have not received no response from him.

Bruce Gerencser, 69, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 48 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.

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9 responses to “A Former Atheist Lets Me Know What He Thinks of Me”

  1. It always amuses me when these people say ‘don’t bother to reply, I’m not interested’. They were interested enough to write you an email, and motivated enough to fill it with passive-aggressive posturing and arrogant pronouncements of their intelligence. I suspect he will prove too egotistical and/or afraid to justify his peculiar attitude.

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    matilddaa

    Tip for you, former atheist. Don’t boast of your intelligence, assuming it’s superior to your hearers. I married into a very academic family with some real high-flyers in it….and you know what? They’re all x-tians, more than happy to debate their beliefs with all and sundry….but with decency and respect, not as an excuse to flaunt their professorships, doctorates or medical degrees. etc etc. I’ve come across other folk in my life with much higher IQs than mine, but again, they haven’t needed to parade it, showcase it and show me how superior they are at every opportunity.

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    GeoffT

    I’m always suspicious of people who write to you claiming to be ‘highly educated’. I don’t care how highly educated someone claims to be it is not, in itself, an indicator of rationality.He claims to have been an attorney, which I am not going to doubt (I have a UK law degree myself, though I never ultimately worked in law), but I am going to dispute the claim that he is a former atheist.

    When I watch atheists in debates on YouTube, when I see the numerous articles they write (not just Bart Ehrman but Alex O’Connor, Stephen Woodford, Seth Andrews, and so on), I’m struck by the extent to how it’s moved on in the last twenty years, and since the emergence of what is referred to as ‘new’ atheism. It’s now a much more measured consideration, and deconstruction, of the religious evidence and arguments, to the point where I now can’t understand how anyone can seriously hold religious beliefs. That isn’t to dismiss those who do still believe, and that includes many highly educated and intelligent people, but in holding those beliefs they are being irrational, suffering extreme cognitive dissonance or, as Jerry Coyne somewhat poignantly says, they leave their reason at the church door each Sunday. I’m told that this is being patronising and, to an extent, I know that this is true, but I can’t help the way the evidence points me.

    Your interlocutor reminds me of J Warner Wallace, who was once a detective of some sort, and who is trumpeted as a hero of Christian apologists. He supposedly brings his forensic skills to bear in proving the truth of Christianity. He does no such thing. He does exactly what Jerry Coyne says above, he abandons his rationality when it comes to religion, replacing it with what is contrived evidence to suit an agenda. As a detective I’d be worried that his approach might have led to false convictions, on the basis that he became convinced of the guilt of someone to the extent that he then mentally altered the facts to fit his hypothesis. This kind of thinking is what makes me doubt the claims of apologists to have been former atheists. Yes, they may never have thought the subject through thoroughly, maybe were brought up in a less obsessive religious family, quietly attended church at Christmas and Easter, but once they adopt a mindset that is genuinely based on critical thinking, then that can never be reversed. In short, your attorney interlocutor is suffering cognitive dissonance. I hope his professional life wasn’t affected.

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      He’s a legitimate lawyer. He has a unique name, so he wasn’t hard to find.

      I respect people who have done the work to learn advanced degrees. That doesn’t necessarily mean they are experts, but I will at least give them a hearing.

      Expertise can be earned many ways. Going to a university is the best way, but many people find other ways to gain knowledge. That’s why being a competent reader is so important. I wasn’t far removed from college before I determined I had received an inferior education. I committed myself to being a diligent student of the Bible. I did everything I could to fill the gaps in my education. Books, 📕 where would we be without them? In retrospect, I wish I had taken Biblical Greek and Hebrew classes. Instead, I had to rely on books and software when studying in the original languages.

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    Karuna Gal

    This man believes in “the continuation of consciousness after physical death.” Hmm, makes me wonder if he is secretly afraid of death. He is up there in age. Maybe you triggered that hidden fear and he had to lash out at you. There are lots of folks who “get religion” as the Grim Reaper closes in. When I was a little girl I heard my nun teacher say, “Old people love God.” And even then I thought, “Well, that’s cause they’re going to die soon!”

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    Danny Plumber

    Hey Bruce! Yeah, I bet he has a unique name. His name is Dick Head!

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    Why did Mr. I Am Extremely Educated, JD feel the need to contact you to tell you he thinks you’re wrong and doesn’t have any interest in your answer? Clearly he didn’t read enough of your blog to glean the fact that people who contact you uninvited in order to disparage you or to proselytize tend to end up as subject matter in a post. 😁 I hope he got whatever he was seeking from writing to you.

  7. I have met very few atheists who became atheists because they were bitter/hurt/angry at “god” or the institution of church. In fact, most have had a similar experience that I had. For the most part, I enjoyed my time as a Christian. I enjoyed church, preaching/teaching in churches, and playing my trumpet in churches. I’ve still very good friends with many that I met in church. Most of the people that I knew from various churches were pretty decent people and I generally enjoyed being around them. I had some minor issues with different people, and I did start to see the institution as a not very healthy way to “god”, but I didn’t leave the faith because of any of this. It was a very in-depth study of the Bible (due to some inconsistencies that I started seeing), the history of the Bible and of the Christian church that caused me to walk away from my faith over a 3 to 4-year period. Definitely not a knee jerk reaction. I didn’t want to not believe anymore. I hung on as long as I could. Eventually, I just couldn’t ignore the things I had read and experienced and had to let it go.

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    Bruce: “To summarize, this man thinks:

    I am bitter (stated twice)
    I am consumed by anger (stated three times)
    My deconversion was a knee-jerk reaction to Christianity
    I took a lazy and short-sighted approach to the big questions of life”

    Zoe: Not a great approach to a conversation.

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