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Patrick Holt Thinks I Hate Christians, God, and the Bible

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A man by the name of Patrick Holt from Grover Hill, Ohio responded today to my May 25, 2016 letter to the editor of the Defiance Crescent-News concerning the Transgender bathroom use issue. Holt, as far as I can tell, pastors an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church in Grover Hill. I featured his church in the On the Road Looking for God’s True Church series. Here’s what Holt had to say:

This is a reply to the May 25 letter by Bruce Gerencser.

In his letter he implied that someone, like myself, who objected to a male using the same bathroom that my mother, wife, daughters, and granddaughters were using was hateful. So, basically, if you disagree with someone, then that, according to Bruce, is hateful. Using that same logic, then Bruce Gerencser, must hate Christians, God and the Bible. Would that not be a proper statement?

Patrick Holt, Grover Hill

Holt would like people to think that the whole Transgender bathroom use issue is all about differences of opinion. It’s not. Holt knows that many Evangelicals — himself included — hate transgendered people and homosexuals. Many Evangelicals — especially those at the far extreme right of Evangelicalism — want sexual perverts (code for non-heterosexuals) to be punished for their deviance. Some Evangelicals even go so far as to call for the incarceration and executions of such people.  I think I am on firm ground then when I say that many Evangelicals HATE, not just the sin, but also the sinner.

Holt, as most people who hold to his version of sexual hysteria, sees the Transgender bathroom use issue as one of men using the women’s restroom. He fails to understand that most of the “men” using the women’s restroom are in the process or have completed chemical/surgical gender reassignment. This means that the “men” Holt is so worried about look like women. In fact, some of them are quite beautiful.

Why doesn’t Holt mention “women” using the men’s restroom? I have yet to hear a peep from Holt’s crowd about Transgenders using the men’s room. Again, most of the “women” using the men’s restroom look like men. I think that the primary reason Evangelicals focus on the “men” using the women’s restroom is because they view their mothers, wives, daughters, and granddaughters as weaker vessels (1 Peter 3:7) in need of protection. I think that if a man actually went into the women’s restroom while women were present, well…he would likely run screaming from the room, minus his testicles.

Holt’s attempt to paint me as a hater falls flat on its face. People who know me know that I am not inclined to hate anyone. I hate certain ideas and beliefs. I despise Holt’s Evangelical beliefs because I think they lead to intellectual stagnation and can and do cause psychological damage. And in some instances these beliefs can cause physical harm. Politically, Evangelical beliefs are the theological currency which drive the move towards establishing a Christian theocracy. Denying the separation of Church and State, many Evangelicals will not rest until King Jesus is sitting on a throne in the Oval Office. Socially, Evangelical beliefs lead to cultural stagnation and impede progress. Evangelicals, armed with an ancient religious text, have waged war against women, undocumented workers, abortion doctors, atheists, humanists, secularists, Democrats, non-Evangelicals, liberal Christians, Barack Obama, and those who have sex outside of monogamous heterosexual marriages. Scientifically, many Evangelicals are determined to teach creationism and Noah’s flood in the public school classrooms.  You see, there are plenty of Evangelical beliefs to hate, but unlike Holt with Transgenders and homosexuals, I don’t hate Evangelicals. While I think people such as Ken Ham, Steven Anderson, the Phelps clan, and a cast of thousands, are first-rate cretins, dolts, morons, halfwits, loons, numbskulls, schmucks, or numbnuts, I don’t hate them. If anything, I pity them, knowing that religious ignorance keeps them chained to the Bible with its fables and contradictions.

Holt — like many Evangelicals — thinks atheists hate God — God being, of course, the Christian deity. If Holt were sitting across the table from me I would ask him if he hated Harry Potter, Santa Claus, or Darth Vader. Holt would surely reply, Of course not. These characters are fictional. I wonder if Holt would see the irony in his response?  Atheists don’t hate the Christian God — or any other God for that matter — because he is a fictional being. Suppose in 2055, the followers of Harry Potter have turned J.K. Rowling’s books into divine texts read each Monday at Potterite churches. Taken literally, these divine texts lead people to do all sorts of mischief, often leading to physical harm or death. Atheists in 2055 would likely hate the beliefs of the Potterites. Does this mean these atheists think Harry Potter is a real person? Of course not. So it is with the Christian God. I don’t hate God for one simple reason — he doesn’t exist. What I DO hatehowever,  is what is done in the Christian God’s name.

As far as hating the Bible, Holt surely knows that the King James version he holds dear is an inanimate object, right? Hating inanimate objects is a waste of time. What I DO hate is what is done with inanimate objects. Guns are used to wage war and murder. Cars are used by drunks to kill and main. And the Bible is used to indoctrinate and enslave. I hate how the Bible is used in our modern world to promote ignorance, often leading to bloodshed and loss of freedom. So, yes, Patrick Holt, I hate God, Christianity, and the Bible, but NOT in the ways you think I do.

I have added Holt’s letter to the Local Response page. If you would like to see how local Evangelicals and Catholics have responded to past Letters to the Editor, please check out this page.

On the Road Looking for God’s True Church

Yesterday, Polly and I took a road trip to northeast Indiana. We drove to North Webster, Indiana, made a circuitous route south of Fort Wayne, and into Ohio, landing in Defiance to buy groceries. All told, we were away from home nine hours. We had a great time, even though today my body is screaming its objections. Along the various roads we traveled, I kept my eyes open for “signs” that showed me God’s true church was nearby.

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Poe Christian Church and Holy Family Center, Poe, Indiana. Poe Christian does not have a website. Based on their Facebook page, I have concluded that they are an Evangelical church.

Evidently, this is the church attended by Champions in Christ, whatever that means.

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Antioch Lutheran Church, Hoagland, Indiana. Founded in 1855, Antioch Lutheran is affiliated with the North American Lutheran Church (NALC) denomination. The NALC denomination, based on a cursory search of their website, is conservative, opposed to same-sex marriage and abortion.

After reading this sign, I turned to Polly and said, In the cold winter, skip church, pour a hot cup of tea, grab a book, and wrap yourself in a blanket. Much better than a dry, crusty sermon from a Lutheran pastor.

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Hoagland Community Church, Hoagland, Indiana. Hoagland Community does not have a website. Based on their sign, the church is Fundamental and Independent (Evangelical).

I hate to break it to the folks at Hoagland Community, countless atheists will go to bed tonight with a peace that passeth all understanding (Philippians 4:7). Unlike Christians, atheists find comfort and peace in their embrace of reality. We do not need promises of heaven, threats of hell, or never-fulfilled reservations at God’s Ramada-in-the Sky. In fact, for many atheists, believing in the Evangelical God was anything but peaceful. How can Christians truly have peace when they can never know for sure if they have offended the God who sees, hears, and knows everything? For atheists, peace comes through knowing on a given day we have lived a good life, doing what we can for the people they love.

And as far as paying attention to the “creator”? Evangelicals-turned-atheists did pay attention to the creator and that is one of the reasons they no longer believe. They looked in vain for signs pointing to the existence of this benevolent, kind, loving God.

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Bible Baptist Church, Grover Hill, Ohio. Bible Baptist does not have a website. (What’s up with these churches not having websites?) Unlike Hoagland Community Church, which is Fundamentalist-light, Bible Baptist is an old-fashioned fire-breathing, King-James-only Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church. According to several directories listing King-James-only churches, Bible Baptist was/is pastored by Patrick Holt, a follower of the late Jack Hyles.

Bible Baptist evidently has some sort of van ministry. Such ministries were roundly criticized by IFB luminaries in the 1970s. Vans were proof of small thinking. THINK BIG, these preachers would say, and buy a bus. Fill it, and then buy another, and another, and another. The red van pictured above must be unusable. It is filled with junk, and weeds are starting to grow around it. In IFB circles this is a sure sign of “sin” or evidence that God has withheld his blessing from the church.