Atheism Has Fundamentalists Too

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Nineteen years ago, as a newly minted unbeliever, I shared my “testimony” on a well-known ex-Christian site. Initially, I found support from several congenial atheists who, upon seeing that I was still in the process of deconverting, gave me sound advice and answered my questions.

Soon, however, the “True Atheists” arrived, setting their sights on the inconsistencies in my “testimony.” They were savage in their attacks — however right they may have been — and I recoiled from their brutality, retreating to the rock I had previously crawled out from under.

I complained, “These people are no different from fundamentalist Baptist preachers.” Unbending, rigid, demanding conformity — all hallmarks of fundamentalist thinking — governed these atheist zealots every bit as much as they governed my former fundamentalist brethren. Fundamentalism is bad, regardless of where it is found, including atheism.

Over the past two decades, atheism has continued to have periodic problems with fundamentalism. Who can forget the Atheism+ period when some atheists demanded a commitment to social justice to be considered a “true atheist.” These atheists wanted humanistic values attached to the definition of what it means to be an atheist. I took the position then and still do today, that atheism is one thing and one thing only: the lack of belief in the existence of God. From there, atheists believe all sorts of things. The proponents of Atheism+ wanted a broader confession of “faith” than a simple confession that “Jesus” is Lord. Again, I saw fundamentalism.

Atheism+ caused a split of sorts, with proponents taking an “either you are with us or you are against us” approach. I ended up in the “against us” group, not because I disagreed with the call of Atheism+ to humanist ideals, but because of its attempt to redefine atheism. That some of the main proponents of Atheism+ acted like fire-breathing Independent Baptist preachers was troubling, but not surprising.

I eventually concluded that fundamentalism was an incurable disease that infects every aspect of the human experience, including atheism. All of us can be fundamentalists, including rational, skeptical freethinkers.

In recent days I’ve noticed another smoldering atheist fire fixing to erupt, stirred by a few atheists demanding “accountability” for a man known as an ally and asset of the atheist community, even though he not an atheist himself.

Dr. Dan McClellan is a Bible scholar. Countless atheists have been educated and helped by Dan’s TikTok and YouTube videos. Even though I have a Bible college education and was a pastor for twenty-five years, I still find Dan’s videos instructive (and entertaining).

According to several notable atheist content creators, Dan should not be supported by atheists. OMG! what did Dr. McClellan do? Are you ready? Dan’s “sin” is his membership in the Mormon church — a secret Dan has not kept from anyone willing to ask or do a bit of digging.

Dan focuses solely on Bible scholarship. His Mormon beliefs play no part in his interpretations of the Bible. I have watched hundreds of Dan’s videos. I’ve yet to see him stray from consensus-based scholarship. And when Dan, on occasion, veers off into minority views, he lets you know. Best I can tell, Dan has done a superb job of compartmentalizing his Mormon faith. While Dan has never explained the breadth and depth of his faith, his political beliefs suggest he is a progressive. He has more than a few beliefs that set him at odds with the conservative pronouncements of Mormon leaders.

It is the conservative bent of the Mormon church and Dan’s membership in that church that has riled up the newest atheist fundamentalists in our midst. These preachers of atheist purity cannot abideDr. McClellan being a go-to source for atheists. For God’s sake, he’s a tithing Mormon!

I have no doubt another fracture is on the horizon, all over a Bible scholar who just so happens to be a Mormon. It is fundamentalists who demand associational purity. That will be the case here. There will be blog posts written and videos created defending or condemning McClellan, the heretic. All this will accomplish is further disunion in a time when unity is needed.

There may come a day when Dan is no longer a Mormon. Honestly, I’m surprised Dan has not been excommunicated (I originally typed “executed) by the church. He has certainly said things that must irritate the heaven out of starched white shirt Mormon leaders in Salt Lake City. If that ever happens and Dan looks for a new place to hang his metaphorical hat, what will his experiences say to him about how individuals in the atheist community treated him?

We atheists, if we care about the future of atheism, know it’s important to put the best face possible on atheism before the world. Fundamentalist thinking and practice only retards progress. We are not so strong as a movement that we can afford to kill off our allies just because their beliefs are different from ours. Dan is an ally, and I’m going to treat him as such, regardless of our differences.

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10 responses to “Atheism Has Fundamentalists Too”

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    Robert

    I joined one of the atheist forums on a well known social media site. I thought the arguments were interesting and helpful. Until one day one of the posts basically said there were no good Muslims and it was nothing but evil. I took exception, stating my belief many Muslims were peaceful, caring people who are trying to live the best they can. The poster replied, sneering, that I didn’t have any idea what I was talking about. I replied kindly, pointing out in history times when it was Islam that was peaceful and enlightened, the response again was insults. So i complained to the moderator. The next week was me trying to defend myself from his sneering comments. I was accused, for instance, of participating in the crusades and holocaust because I was told I must have belonged to church and am still a Christian by association. I finally blocked him. The arrogance and sneering was too much to take. Most atheists come across as caring, searching for truth. Some, like some religionists, are belligerent and arrogant. If you want to believe Jesus, it is the heart of love that is most important. His God wouldn’t care about your religious beliefs, or the lack of them, but who you are and loving your neighbor.

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      Sharon

      I’ve noticed that there are assholes in all groups. When you move from one group to another, you take your personality with you.

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    Sharon

    I think some of us, due to our personalities, like things tidy and neat. We are uncomfortable with messiness. We need people to fit into their own little boxes. But, people are complex.

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    GeoffT

    I had no idea that Dan was a registered Mormon. If I’d found that out other than through your post I would have immediately begun googling and AI searching (can we refer to “AIing”? 😂), because I can’t equate the two things in my head. I just assumed Dan was an atheist. Almost all pushback I’ve seen against him is from people deriding him as not a proper Bible scholar, but never referencing his Mormonism. I find him a great source of information on the bible (along with Bart Ehrman of course) and I hope that this latest information won’t affect my view.
    As for fundamentalist atheists, it’s interesting to see how the landscape has changed since the early days of the internet (though my involvement is more recent). Strident atheism became a symbol of reason and people got totally carried away. Dawkins, Hitchens et al did a wonderful job in waking the world to the dangers of religion, and its underlying weaknesses, but they could reason an argument. Modern fundamentalist atheists are far too self righteous in their own little world to see that they need to be a lot less confrontational if they are going to make friends and have people listen to their case.

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    John S.

    Great post as always, Bruce.

    As a student of history, I will always call out extremes in all ideologies and religious/anti-religious movements. As much as I believe far-right religiously inspired Facism is the big enemy right now in our country, I don’t have any delusions about a hypothetical futuristic threat to individual liberties from an anti-theistic far left government, too.

    The enemy in my opinion is totalitarian purity-inspired group think. This can happen to any political or social group. At the end of the day, these purity obsessed anti-theists just cannot abide anyone who doesn’t think 100% like themselves. Funny thing is, if “they” ever gain any real power, don’t be surprised if a Josef Stalin-like mega purge happens, because then everyone is subjected to Scientology-like audits to gauge their worthiness to the movement.

    These cult-like behaviors aren’t restricted to fundamentalist religions, and they should be resisted in the same manner.

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    Elaine Watkins

    I know it all too well. A former member of my Unitarian Universalist congregation has a whole toolshed full of axes to grind. In the words of Groucho Marx, whatever it is, he’s against it, if there’s even a whiff of anything even remotely connected to religion. This includes words like spirit and covenant, as well as scores more. Makes conversation difficult, as everyone knows there are landmines, but their locations are often the surprise.

  6. From the Salt Lake Tribune:

    Rogan, for his part, seems uninterested in the church, never asking directly about it. He inquires only near the end about McClellan’s own beliefs — or, as he puts it, “your version of this.”

    It’s a question McClellan is clearly practiced at sidestepping, conceding that he is a “religious man” and nothing more.

    “I just don’t talk about that,” he explains about his personal beliefs, “and in no small part because I do believe that it is as Jesus in the New Testament says: ‘When you pray, go into your closet and pray in secret, and your father will reward you openly.’”

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    Karen the rock whisperer

    I’m an atheist who enjoys scholarly discussions about religious history, beliefs, esoterica, etc. I can’t justify caring about the religious beliefs of secular scholars. I have too much respect for the process of good scholarship. If I get into a personal argument with someone about religion (a very rare event!), I will argue against beliefs I think are contrary to modern knowledge, especially modern scientific knowledge. But that’s very different from letting a scholar’s religious background bias me against their scholarship.

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    Purity tests. Fundamentalists love purity tests. Some MAGAs have purity tests, some Democrats have purity tests, some Christian Nationalists have purity tests, many denominations and individual churches or synagogues or mosques have purity tests. I coukd go on and on. Any group can have Fundamentalists in their midst who demand strict adherence to certain criteria to be considered a Real Member of the Group.

  9. Just about every human endeavor has its version of fundamentalism and fundamentalists. Politics and academia are rife with them; I know about the latter from experience. When I understood that, it made perfect sense that one of my former professors, who had been a Fulbright Scholar, joined the cult featured in “Wild, Wild Country.”

    I think now of how some second-wave feminists claimed Gloria Steinem (R.I.P.) wasn’t one of them because she was “too pretty “ and wore miniskirts to some rallies. Some even claimed that a woman was “selling out” to the patriarchy and that a trans woman (like yours truly) can’t be a “real woman,” let alone a feminist.

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