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Family Driven Faith Part Two

bruce and polly gerencser 2008
Bruce and Polly Gerencser 2008

This article was first published in 2011 on No Longer Quivering Corrected, revised, and updated

As an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) pastor, I taught parishioners that the the Bible clearly defined the roles of men (husbands), women (wives), and children. (a hierarchy) The Bible is clear: the husband is the head of the home and the wife is commanded to submit to the authority and rule of her husband. Like the pastor in the church, the husband is the final authority in the home. It matters not if he is worthy of such responsibility. A husband is disobedient to God if he refuses to be the head of the home. The wife, if she refuses to submit to her husband’s authority, is a Jezebel and risks the judgment of God.

I taught women that God’s highest calling for them was marriage, having children, and keeping the home. I discouraged women from going to college. After all why waste money going to college if you are going to be busy having children and keeping the home.

I taught men that God’s highest calling is for them to be a leader. Men are called by God to lead the church, the home,and the government. The strength or weakness of any nation, culture, church, or home depends on whether men are fulfilling their divine calling to lead.

Children are at the bottom of the hierarchical system. They are under the authority of God, the Bible, the pastor, their father, and their mother. Children have one divine calling in life, obey!

This kind of hierarchical family structure has been a part of American society since the day the Pilgrims stepped ashore on the eastern coast of America. Over time, due to social, political, and economic pressure, the hierarchical family structure has weakened. As women gained the right to vote, began working outside of the home, and began using birth control, they realized they could live without being under the control and authority of a man. Modern American women are free to pursue their own life path, free to live lives independent of men. When women marry, they are no longer considered the help meet. They are equal partners in the marriage. Their values, beliefs, and opinions matter.

However, in the IFB church movement women still live in the 18th century. Bound by commands and teachings from an antiquated book, they live lives strangely and sadly out of touch with the modern world. Every aspect of family life is controlled by what the Bible teaches. Better put, their life is controlled  by what an authoritarian pastor and authoritarian husband/father say the Bible teaches.

I have no objection to a woman willingly choosing to live and participate in a hierarchical family structure. If an Amish woman wants to live as the Amish do, then I have no reason or right to object. It  is, however, difficult to determine if they willingly choose. Is it a free choice when there are no other options?

For my family and I, moving away from a hierarchical family structure was difficult. We had to relearn how to live. We had to examine sincerely held beliefs and determine if they still were applicable to the new way we wanted to live our lives. I realized that I had lorded over my family. I had dominated and controlled their lives, all in the name of Jesus. By doing so, I had robbed them of the ability to live their lives independently of my control. Every decision had to have my stamp of approval. Nothing escaped my purview. After all, God had commanded me to be the head of the home. Someday, I would give an account to God for how I managed the affairs of my family. I took the threat of judgment seriously.

The biggest problem we faced was that since I was the one who always made the final decision my children and wife lacked the skills necessary to make good decisions. My children quickly adapted to their new-found freedom, shouting a Martin Luther King Jr-like FREE, FREE AT LAST. However, my wife did not fare so well.

Raised in a fundamentalist home, her father an IFB pastor, Polly had spent her entire life under the thumb of someone else. She rarely had to make a decision because there was always someone else making decisions for her. To say our new-found freedom was difficult for Polly would be a gross underestimation. Suddenly, she was forced to make decisions on her own. For a time, she panicked when faced with making a decision on her own. Simple decisions, like what to order at the fast food drive-thru or whether or not to put gas in the car, were monumental decisions for her.(1)

Over time, Polly’s decision making skills improved. Several years ago, she was promoted to a supervisory position at local manufacturing concern. (2) One night, she came home from work all upset. She told me that she had made a decision about something and several people were now upset at her. I laughed and  told her, rule number one about making decisions. You will likely piss someone off. (3)

polly gerencser graduation 2012
Polly Gerencser, Graduating from Northwest State Community College, Archbold, Ohio

In 2010, Polly returned to college. She struggled at first, and it took quite a bit of willpower for me not to bail her out. Over time, she adapted to using the computer (she was computer illiterate) and doing the various things necessary to be a good college student. In 2012, Polly  graduated with an Associates of Arts degree from Northwest State Community College. I wept as I saw her walk down the aisle on graduation day. Her graduation was a reminder of how far both of us have come. (Polly actually has 5 years of college credit. Unfortunately, 3 of those years were spent at an unaccredited Bible college)

Polly was over 40 years old before she wore her first pair of pants. Same goes for going to the movie theater, drinking alcohol, cutting her hair short, reading a non-Christian romance novel, etc, etc, etc. As many people know, the IFB movement is all about what a Christian CAN’T do. Some of these choices were fearful choices, God lurking in the shadows of the mind, ready to punish her for making“sinful” choices.”

With change comes new life. In many ways, we have been “born again.” In 2005, I left the pastorate and we began a slow, painful process of examining our Christian beliefs. For many years, my family believed what I believed, went to church when I went to church, and obeyed any and every command I gave, complete with proof texts from the Bible . Now it is different.

I told my wife and six children that I was setting them free. I am no longer the spiritual head of the home or the patriarch of the family.  They are free to be whatever they want to be. I sincerely mean this. If they want to be Wiccan,Christian, Buddhist, Pagan, or atheist, I am fine with it. The bottom line is this: I want them to be happy. If they are happy, I am happy.

This last decision has caused quite a bit of controversy and conflict. Freed from my control, my entire family quickly abandoned the Evangelical church. I am now an atheist, Polly is an agnostic, and our children, for the most part do not attend church. (4) Religion is still a big topic of discussion in our family and I still like a rousing debate or discussion about religion, politics, or sports. The difference now is that there is no test of fidelity. No, “did you guys go to church today?” No, “what was the sermon about?” 

Our family remains a work in progress. As my wife continues to learn to make decisions, I have to learn not to make decisions. I am learning to shut up and allow them to make choices for themselves, even when I think their choices are ill-advised. I have a new rule I live by: If I think someone is making a bad decision on an important issue, I will voice my opinion, but that is the end of it. I stay out of my children’s business. They are responsible adults and I support whatever decision they make, even if I disagree with it.

We are far from a finished product. Polly still freezes at the drive-thru and I still know what I want before we pull into the restaurant. We still have the same peculiar character traits we’ve always had. You know,those things that annoy and bug the hell out of you. The difference now is that we have learned to embrace each other’s peculiarities, knowing that these are what make us unique individuals. (5)

It is good to be free.

(1) Even today she freezes at the drive-thru. We joke about it now, but her freezing hails from a day when I ordered everything.

(2) One of the first steps of freedom for Polly was getting a job, a job that she has held since 1997.

(3) I was well suited for the hierarchical family system and the pastorate. I am not afraid to make decisions. Snap decisions come easy for me. It felt very natural to me to make all the decisions. However, in the home, like at work, one person making all the decisions stunts the growth of others and when they are put into a position where they must make a decision they are often unable to.

(4) I am hesitant to label my children’s current beliefs. Two of my children attend the Catholic church with their wives. The rest of them, for the most part, do not attend church. I would not classify them as atheists or even agnostics. They are indifferent and still figuring out what they believe. It is exciting to watch, even if the IFB part of our extended family thinks we are committing spiritual suicide.

(5) I have Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD) and Polly is happy with clutter. Ours is a match made in hell. For many years, my OCPD dominated everything. I have had to learn that while I have every right to want things perfectly ordered, everything in its place, Polly also has the right not to want things perfectly ordered, everything in it place. We each have personal spaces where we are free to practice our peculiar habits and traits. We know to stay out of each others “stuff”. In the common spaces, we try to find a happy medium, though I must admit I have a hard time doing this.  The clutter has decreased significantly since our last two children moved out 15 months ago.

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    You and Polly ate amazing people. To be as deeply imbedded in that lifestyle as you were and to walk away shows amazing strength.

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    Logan G

    What an amazing testament to you and Polly that with all you’ve been through, along with the strong difference with OCPD / clutter, that you are still together. That’s awesome. I loved what you said about your kids too: “The bottom line is this: I want them to be happy. If they are happy, I am happy.”

    As a father of 5, I feel exactly the same way.

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    I love the graduation pic, a bit goofy and she looks so darned happy!

    As for the decision-making difficulties I can sympathize, although I came to that in a different way. In my current relationship I’m content to let my man make a lot of the decisions because I truly don’t care about most of them, either way usually is OK with me and he doesn’t entirely understand, poor guy! Not that I was entirely passive or submissive when in a patriarchal marriage…seems that as long as I know I *can* make a decision I don’t feel that I *have* to make them all myself, if that makes any sense at all.

    The above decision-making philosophy does fall to the wayside though when an issue I actually care about comes up. When that happens I’m making my own choices, dammit, and others can come along or be left behind! And there are a few things that I just refuse to let anyone else decide for me just because I wasn’t allowed those choices in the past. So I suppose I’m a bit spotty and inconsistent about this whole decision-making thing, but that’s just how it is for me.

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    So because you had no idea how to read the Bible correctly, you were a failure as a pastor, husband, and father. Then you turn around and blame Christ.

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      Becky Wiren

      Wow. I’ve read several of your comments. They are mean spirited. Are you supposed to be a Christian? Because I’ve got to tell you, you won’t inspire anyone to turn to Jesus with THAT attitude. Quite the reverse.

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          Becky Wiren

          Yeah, plus I bet he only read a little and then did that thing where he judges you based on his oh so superior knowledge. Sorry, I get tired of mean people giving you a hard time. Especially mean people who claim to be Christians. So many people who claim to be Christian now are really angry, defensive, and hateful. Used to be they at least TRIED to present a more loving demeanor.

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    Sorry if the truth sounds mean. Sometimes it is. You know what’s worse than that? An atheist who thinks he’s a pastor.

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        I’ll chime in regarding Matt”s comments:
        Though at this moment, Bruce and I have landed in different places, I’m certainly not angry or offended. I do believe the truth is in Christ, but that most seekers can’t find it because the majority of Western Christendom, as Bruce rightly points out, is about money, power and sex. It’s big business; big, religious business. To be angry with Bruce is to be apart of the problem, IMHO. True believers should attack the system, not the victims.

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    This is an old thread so Matt may no longer be checking in but you sir are a pompous ass! Of course that seems to define most zealots, religious or otherwise.

    I’m amazed at how many people use someone’s personal blog to criticize the writer’s thoughts. I would never dream of criticizing another’s work, especially when invited into their personal space. Just about the time the last t-rex died off, I was watching my dad fix something and something went wrong. I laughed and he glared at me saying, “NEVER criticize another man’s work.” I guess Matt never learned that lesson.

    Bruce, you and I disagree on things political but I am a guest here. I read to see how other people think and try to understand different ideas. I read because of your wealth of knowledge and background. Your insight has made a difference in my quest for “truth,” Some of your thoughts mirror what I sensed for years. Thank you for your efforts.

    And when I disagree, being rude and insulting is a pompous and poor argument. Matt should apologize.

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      Bruce Gerencser

      You said, “And when I disagree, being rude and insulting is a pompous and poor argument.”

      Yep. Disagreement is fine, expected even. Just don’t be an ass. Unfortunately, more than a few believers and unbelievers alike don’t understand this basic rule of human interaction.

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