Fake Dr. David Tee, whose real name is Derrick Thomas Thiessen, is upset over Ben Berwick and me quoting his words. Somehow, some way, we are mispresenting him by quoting from his blog posts. Both Ben and I link to his posts so our readers can read our Tee quotes in context. We’ve yet to have anyone except Thiessen say that we have mispresented or distorted his words. Thiessen has yet to learn that when you say things in public, somebody is going to quote you or repeat what you said. I own every word I write. When I am not clear, I explain and clarify. But, when I say something that offends someone, I don’t run from my words. If Thiessen doesn’t want to be held accountable for what he says, I suggest that he stop saying nasty, hateful, inflammatory stuff.
Part of the problem is that Theissen has a god complex. He is not special in this regard. When a man thinks that he is supernaturally called by a supernatural God to preach supernatural sermons, is it any surprise that he thinks he is God, or at the very least, God-adjacent? I previously mentioned that Theissen feels Ben and I are persecuting him. He even said that he was just like Jesus standing silent before the Sanhedrin. When a person with intimate knowledge about Theissen’s past shares verifiable evidence for troubling past behavior, Theissen says nothing. Why? He’s above the fray, as God is. God doesn’t answer his critics and neither does Thiessen. Just today, Theissen said:
We never said we were the moral authority on this issue. We did say that GOD is and we write his words, not ours. Ours are not inspired but they are based on inspired words. So the problem BG and MM have is not with us but with God and his ways.
Need I say more?
Theissen continues to defend his belief that a ten-year-old (or even a five-year-old) rape victim should be FORCED to carry her fetus to term. Thiessen shows a callous disregard for the welfare of the girl. All that matters is his warped interpretation of the Bible. Theissen has written post after post defending his position. He’s done the same with his continued defense of rapists, child molesters, and abusers. It seems that his moral compass is broken. No amount of pushback from Ben or me has changed Thiessen’s mind. Why? We are atheists (though Ben has never claimed to be an atheist). Atheists have nothing to offer the human race. Our words should be ignored. Thus, he makes no attempt to engage our challenges. Instead, Theissen attacks us personally, disparaging our character and slandering our good names. Why does he behave this way? He’s “God,” so he can say and do whatever he wants.
Theissen provides a good example of this in his latest diatribe, No Rational, Logical or Evidence Filled Arguments:
We have 2 main detractors [Ben Berwick and Bruce Gerencser] that like reading our website. They can’t seem to get enough of our content. When we say something they do not like, their websites are filled with their ‘opposing’ points of view.
We know about them because they make sure they link to our articles in their content. What we have found is that despite their demands that Christians present rational, logical, and evidence-filled (their definitions, of course), content in rebuttal to their arguments, these detractors do not do the same thing.
They would rather use innuendo, lies, misleading comments, and false declarations as if they are an authority.
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His words imply something we never said, implied, or hinted at. BG misleads his readers YET not one word is found in either article that presents a rational, logical, and evidence-filled opposing view.
He has to stoop to insults, inferences, and clever wording to get his readers to think negatively about us and our content. MM is just the same.
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Nothing rational there or even logical. He resorts to name calling, abusive language, and lies and he continues to try to read our minds. Of course, he makes the excuse of not presenting anything rational, logical, or evidence-filled by insulting us and using that as justification for his failure to make his point.
Both MM and BG like to attack the messenger so they do not have to deal with the truth.
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MM & BG just want negative fodder to continue to attack us in their own sinful ways. They won’t be rational. logical or even produce evidence to support their views. Everything they have written or alluded to points to the validity and truthfulness of our content.
We never said we were the moral authority on this issue. We did say that GOD is and we write his words, not ours. Ours are not inspired but they are based on inspired words. So the problem BG and MM have is not with us but with God and his ways.
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They do not like those ways, so they advocate for everything sinful. Their denial of both God and sin just shows that their arguments are never rational,. logical or even evidenced-filled. They are not honest either.
Their arguments are personally based, subjective and according to their own desires and thoughts. Unbelievers are never rational, logical, or evidence-based because they dismiss the truth in favor of their own deceived opinions.
They are not our enemy, but the evil in and behind them are. We do not wish them ill-will and are saddened that they hold onto evil in spite of hearing the truth. We also do not spread misinformation, or lies and do other things to them as they do to us.
Our actions prove we are more moral than they can ever hope to be.
Here’s my challenge to Derrick Thomas Thiessen. Want to debate the issues, Derrick? I will gladly debate you on YouTube. I will make the debate available on my YouTube channel. All that I ask is that you use your real name and visage. No hiding behind fake names and avatars. Want to defend your views on the Bible, abortion, and defending child molesters? I will gladly provide you with a forum to do so. I am not inclined to continue this back and forth via blog posts. I will respond if you personally attack me, but outside of that, I am content to leave you to your own devices.
Bruce Gerencser, 66, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 45 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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Dr T strikes me as a coward. He’s not up to dueling with you.
I’d be amazed if he took up your challenge.
Theissen sounds like the depraved, odious monsters that my father and perpetrator brother are. Reproductive coercion in war is rightfully seen as a war crime. But in families, apparently it’s “justified” by such people.
We should bet on whether Tee takes you up on your offer to debate, and donate the proceeds to Planned Parenthood and NARAL.
SH–As a fellow childhood sexual abuse survivor (at the hands of a priest), I empathise with you. And you make a great point: What would be a crime in any other context is “justified” if it’s “kept in the family.”
If two people are engaged in sex and one has not consented, it is rape. That, and any other violation of a child’s personhood is abuse. End of story. And anyone who puts anyone else’s needs, rights or desires ahead of those of the victim–especially anyone who defends the victimizer–is a bully and coward. There are no other words (that I know of, anyway) for them.
Obstacle–Great idea!
Ben and BJW–If we take up Obstacle’s idea, you know how I’m betting.
You know … I think Derrick is right. God should be the final moral authority on all matters, and anyone who objects, by definition, has a problem with God and his ways.
With that in mind, though, I have a question, Derrick: what problem do you have with Paul’s words in his first letter to Timothy?
1 Timothy 5:8: “Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”
Aside from being commanded to do so by God, you were under the order of an appropriately-empowered court to do so (Romans 13:1-2: “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.”)
So what does it say for you that you disobeyed this order? You were in Korea for most of the period it was in force, and the amount of the order approximated roughly 10 percent of the average teacher’s salary in Korea, and the dollar wasn’t all that weak for all that long to preclude you from providing for your household.
Goodness. That’s at least two places you seem to be living in a manner contrary to God’s moral authority, isn’t it? (There’s also something about offering to contribute to a home in which you seek and receive refuge … but that’s another post.)
But, hey, look on the bright side: you are living in a manner consistent with most virulent pro-lifers. You’re pushing for birth at all costs (yes, even if it kills the mother) and then telling them “screw you” once they’ve arrived in the world. Even if you happened to donate sperm to the undertaking.
Incidentally, Derrick, I tried to ask this on your blog, and in a much friendlier manner, but somehow, it never got posted as a comment. Wonder why?
Following DoseofTruth’s train of thought here. If this Derrick cherry-picks from his Good Book of inspired infallible moral authority, then he plainly has no case to plead regarding HIS OWN morality.