
Dr. David Tee, an Evangelical preacher and world-renowned Bible archeologist, hasn’t written much about me in recent weeks. Tee, whose real name is Derrick Thomas Thiessen, hasn’t said much about his other nemesis, Meerkat Musings (Ben Berwick) either. Ben and I are pleased when Thiessen moves on to other people to use as “object lessons” for his teachings; which are, in fact, neither. As you will see in a moment, something flew up Tee’s nether regions, causing him all kinds of irritation and aggravation. After you read his words below, ask yourself, “Why”? Why did Thiessen bother to write this post? What did he hope to accomplish? Certainly not interaction or discussion. Certainly not a good faith attempt to reconcile differences of opinion. No, in less than five hundred words, Thiessen goes out of his way to harm and slander. Why? I, for the life of me, can’t figure out Thiessen’s motivations.
What follows is my response to Thiessen’s diatribe. I rarely respond to Thiessen unless he first mentions me on his blog. All spelling, grammar, punctuation, and irrationality in the original. Thiessen hates it when I point this out, but since he has repeatedly accused me of altering his words (even those written on other blogs), I present his writing unedited. He might want to think about hiring an editor. Or, at the very least, find himself a Carolyn who is willing to turn shit into gold.
Why we do not write much about BG & MM anymore.
BG is Bruce Gerencser (that’s me!) and MM is Meerkat Musings, a blog operated by my British friend, Ben Berwick. Thiessen knows he should properly mention our names and link to our content when he uses it in his writing, but, for some unknown reason, he refuses to do so. I’ve been blogging for seventeen years. I have only had a few other people do the same. Thiessen and these writers have one thing in common: they are all hardcore Fundamentalist Christians; people who generally have reputations for bullying, harassing, and demeaning other people. No matter how often I point out their behavior is inconsistent with the teachings of the Bible, they continue to give Christianity a bad name.
You may have noticed that we rarely go to their sites for examples to use. The simple explanation is that God doesn’t want us to do it and one reason for that direction is that they never say anything new.
I assume Thiessen means that over the past few weeks, he has rarely visited “our sites for examples to use.” Previously, Thiessen has written numerous posts about me and my favorite Meerkat.
Thiessen claims that the Protestant Christian God personally communicates with him and instructed him not to use content from Meerkat Musings and The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser. However, Thiessen does not provide any evidence for this assertion, expecting readers to simply take his word for it. According to Thiessen, God communicated to him that he should stop using Bruce’s and Ben’s content on his site and move on because they “never say anything new.”
This is a subjective claim based on personal beliefs and experiences. Readers have various reactions to my writing. I cannot control how people respond to me. All I can do is write thoughtful content that might help others. I strive to write in a way that others find valuable. Email, blog comments, and social media messages suggest that some people really appreciate my writing, while others strongly dislike it.
Thiessen knows that the Bible says “There is nothing new under the sun,” so it is unlikely that I am going to break new ground on this site. Of course, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I started this blog for one reason: to have a place to tell my story. This is a personal blog, a place where I can flesh out the fifty years I spent in Evangelicalism and the twenty-five years I spent pastoring Bible-believing, Bible-preaching, Jesus-loving churches in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan.
In December, this blog will celebrate ten years of blogging glory. By then, I will have written over 6,000 posts — many of which have been edited by my dear friend Carolyn (she doesn’t edit short posts or the Black Collar Crime series). She has edited thousands of posts, making me a better writer in every way — even if she is unable to exorcise some of my stubborn grammar errors and spelling mistakes. If anyone knows my motivations, it is Carolyn. I am confident if she thought I was straying from my purpose and goal, she would say something. If all I ever wrote were Black Collar Crime stories, I doubt she would be interested in being my editor. However, I hope she sees something of value in my writing, and wants to help me make it better, thus reaching a wider audience.
Roughly 20 percent of the posts on this site are Black Collar Crime stories. The rest are primarily personal retellings of past experiences or critiques of Evangelical beliefs and practices. My chosen path for this blog naturally limits how much new, original content I post to this site. Christianity is a closed system of thought; a text-based religion. Theologians, apologists, and pastors rarely, if ever, have new thoughts about Christianity or this or that Bible teaching. Christians have spent the past two thousand years “defending” the faith, so I highly doubt that groundbreaking research is coming any time soon. Thiessen’s blog is typically a regurgitation of Evangelical dogma or posts pointing out that he is right and the other person is wrong. And according to Thiessen, Ben and I are ALWAYS wrong. No matter what we write, we are w-r-o-n-g. Why are we wrong? Cuz, what we write opposes or is contrary to his personal religious/political/social beliefs. I can’t remember the last time Thiessen engaged me on a particular subject; a good faith discussion where there is an honest, open exchange of thoughts, opinions, and ideas. No, all he does is tell me I am wrong, he is right, and that’s the end of the matter. Of course, it is hard to have a thoughtful discussion with someone who thinks you are a child of Satan and headed for Hell.
It is all the same material. BG whines about being told he is wrong, then he points accusing fingers at those he disagrees with./
Thiessen repeatedly makes this claim, yet does not justify saying that all I do is “whine” and “point fingers” at people I have disagreements with. Perhaps he can write a full-throated defense of his claim. If not, I will assume he is just making shit up. I have done all I know to do to engage Thiessen in a way that leads to profitable interaction and discussion for both of us. I have several times offered him opportunities to write guest posts or rebuttals to something I have written. He’s written one post, ignoring all other offers for discussion and dialog. I also offered to debate him — any time, anywhere, any subject. This offer he has also rejected. I suspect he thinks it beneath him to be “ready at any time to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you.” (I Peter 3:15) Maybe I am an apostate and a reprobate — one beyond the grace the God — but thousands of other people who read this blog are not. Surely, they are a golden opportunity to put in a good word for Jesus; to warn people of the dangers of listening to the Evangelical-pastor-turned-atheist Bruce Gerencser.
Thiessen, as Christian Fundamentalists are wont to do, thinks he is right. His words excrete certainty. Of course, when you believe the Bible is inerrant and infallible (two claims I would love to debate with Thiessen) and God, in the person of the Holy Spirit, lives inside of you as your teacher, guide, and conscience, how could it be otherwise? One thing I have learned post-Jesus is that I don’t know as much as I think I do;, not only do I know what I know, but more importantly, I know what I don’t know. I know my limitations and weaknesses. I know where my expertise lies, and when it is best for me to keep my mouth shut. Years ago, I got into a lengthy email discussion with a mainline Baptist preacher on psychology. This man, much older than I, was well-educated in psychology and psychiatry. Several emails in, it became clear to me that I was out of my depth. However, instead of admitting this, I doubled down and went into preacher mode. His next email to me was direct: “Bruce, you are full of shit and don’t know what you are talking about.” He was, of course, right.
If you challenge him he starts doing nasty things to people.
What, exactly, are those “nasty things” I do to people? Outside of a few pranks, I haven’t done anything “nasty” to Thiessen, or anyone else, for that matter. Again, Thiessen makes a claim for which he provides no evidence.
Besides, we have had a belly full of his repeated claim of 4000 sermons, pastor for 25 years, song and dance.
I have repeatedly told Thiessen that I treat every post I write as a stand-alone article. I never assume that a reader knows anything about me. This is a courtesy provided to new readers. I wonder, however, if Thiessen is challenging the veracity and truthfulness of these claims? Did I pastor churches for twenty-five years? Did I really preach 4,000 sermons? Why would I lie about these things? Even at three sermons a week (Sunday morning, Sunday night, Thursday) for twenty-five years, I would have preached over 3,900 sermons. For many years, I preached more than three sermons a week, along with holding revivals and conferences. Throw in teaching Sunday school and preaching on the street 2-3 times a week, 4,000 sermons is a conservative estimate.
If my writing causes Thiessen stomach problems, I suggest he make an appointment with a gastroenterologist and get his digestive tract checked out. Either that or avoid foods that cause his belly to ache.
No matter what you say, he will find a way to ignore the evidence provided and repeat stupid claims like ‘I will consider believing if you…’ The evidence is there, he just does not want to believe anymore or he cannot return to his faith.
It is not that I ignore what little evidence Thiessen provides, as much as I find it lacking. Thiessen forgets that I was a pastor for twenty-five years; that I spent, on average, 20 hours a week, reading and studying the Bible and other theological tomes. That’s roughly 26,000 hours. So when I use the number 20,000 hours, I am being conservative. I know his arguments and evidence inside and out. I have weighed the central claims of Christianity in the balance and found them wanting. I am open to compelling evidence for Christianity, but just saying “The Bible says” or quoting proof texts ain’t going to cut it.
If the “evidence” is there for me to see, I would see it and respond accordingly. I am more than willing to engage Thiessen provided he is an honest, thoughtful interlocutor. Hell, I will even engage him if he is an Asshole for Jesus®. I enjoy a good roll in theological hay, even if I know the “sex” will result in a premature ejaculation.
As for MM, who we will call the great distorter. He still does not know what he is talking about and continues to create strawman arguments based on unreality and his socialist views. One of the latest is his distortion who loves money.
I will leave it to Ben to defend himself. I find Ben’s writing to be thoughtful and compelling. Not everything, of course. I am not an F-1 or soccer fan, so I tend to skip over those posts, but I enjoy the rest of his content. He and I hold similar political views — similar, not identical. It should be noted that Ben is not an atheist. I am trying to get him “saved,” but so far I have not succeeded. That’s not to say Ben’s a Christian. He’s not, but as with most of us who are not Fundamentalist Christians, we are on a journey. Where that journey takes us remains unknown.
While we will still check their websites from time to time, we have no interest in bringing attention to their false claims, accusations, and histrionics. Their woe is me, we are victims drama has gotten old. Plus, they do not know how to discuss properly.
What is it that we don’t know how to discuss properly? Again, Thiessen provides no evidence for his claim.
Besides we have other sources we can turn to that can be used to use for teaching moments, examples, and other important topics.
Thiessen has always had these other sources to use for his so-called “teaching moments,” (he sees himself as THE teacher, and the rest of us as students) yet he has primarily used Ben’s and my content for his blog — hundreds of posts over the past three or so years.
By all means, Derrick, move on to other object lessons. I guarantee you, the moment you stop writing about me, you will never be mentioned again on this site. Of course, you won’t do this. For whatever reason, you are obsessed with me. I have offered to send you a large blow-up of me naked that you can place on the ceiling over your bed, but you declined my offer. Others, however, begged for me to send them a photo. Maybe this would be a new way for me to make money.
Maybe our disinterest n their websites content began when we found out that neither of them have very popular websites.
I can’t speak for Ben, but Thiessen is accusing me of lying about the traffic numbers for this site. How did he come to this conclusion? If Thiessen has evidence for his claim, I want to see it. Here’s what I know: last year, this blog had almost one million page views. This number has dropped a bit in 2024 since Google tweaked its search algorithm. Both big and small sites have complained about traffic drops. Mine dropped almost 40 percent, but in recent weeks, it has rebounded a bit.
Maybe Thiessen is using an Internet site that allegedly tells you how much traffic a particular site has. These websites are rarely accurate. For example, I went to one site that said this blog gets 342 page views a day. Thiessen would see this as proof of his claim. When I search for his site, do you know what it says? Thiessen’s site averages three page views a day.
I use several internal SEO tracking programs to monitor site traffic. This blog is larger than many blogs and much smaller than some. As long as the numbers stay consistent or continue to improve, I am happy. Like every writer, I want my writing to be read by as many people as possible. In that regard, I am someone who cares a lot about statistics. Nevertheless, I would continue to write if only 100 people read my blog daily. I find writing to be a form of therapy and a pain reliever. When I no longer personally benefit from writing or people stop finding my work helpful, I will retire my laptop and spend my remaining days of life watching M.A.S.H. reruns.
Thiessen needs to provide empirical evidence for his claims. What metrics is he using? How does he define “popular”? Otherwise, he’s just talking nonsense, hoping to depreciate the value people find in my writing or to belittle me for allegedly having a smaller dick than I say I have.
They do not reach a large audience.
Thiessen needs to define “large.” No, this site is not Microsoft or Google-sized. However, it is larger than most of the blogs on the Internet, especially in my chosen category. Why the sudden obsession with “size”? Is it surprising that Theissen is also a big Trump supporter — a man noted for his obcession with size?
We reach whomever God wants us to reach and we are content with that. So do not expect frequent references to BG or MM and their false content on this website.
Thiessen’s blog, by all accounts, is a low-traffic site. He feels justified attacking my traffic numbers, while at the same time attributing his poor traffic numbers to God. If God wanted more people to read his blog, God’s social media manager would send people his way. Instead of using proven techniques and practices to improve his site, he leaves its success or failure to God; and in doing so resigns himself to obscurity. His choice, but I want to attract as many readers as possible, atheists and Christians alike.
By the way, Thiessen has a new blog where he touts his writing prowess. You can check it out here. Let me know what you think of his new site.
I hope Thiessen will respond to this post, providing actual evidence for his claims. My offer to him to write rebuttals or engage me in a public debate still stands. Count me a one atheist who is “ready at any time to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you.”
Saved by Reason,

Bruce Gerencser, 67, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 46 years. He and his wife have six grown children and sixteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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I’ve just checked his new site. It’s meaningless. Who’s he advertising to? What’s he advertising? I daresay people accessing it probably are already aware of the ‘services’ he offers, but otherwise it’s hard to think of a more poorly designed website. In any event, Tee is far too poor a writer to be able to look to it as regular income, and his reasoning skills are even worse, to the extent that I can’t imagine what he actually does for a living.
This puffed-up, self-righteous, gasbag, self-proclaimed “doctor” really has no clue how horrible his writing is. He sounds like a kid who didn’t pay attention in writing class. I have no idea why he thinks anyone will take him seriously when he writes like a child. 🤮🤮🤮
I don’t know why “Dr. David Tee” wastes his time being a troll. He obviously has nothing better to do. My uneducated guess is that he thinks if he attacks you and Ben Berwick enough, he thinks you will succumb to his persuasion. It’s not gonna happen.
I dare say you’ve hit the nail on the head Kathy. I would add that I believe Thiessen is scared of Bruce. He has seen someone who dedicated decades to the Christian faith walk away from it, breaking free of the shackles, so to speak. From there, Bruce has extensively written openly and honestly about his life, display a strength of conviction that frightens Thiessen. He would dearly love to silence Bruce, because he fears Bruce’s story.
Derrick Thomas Thiessen: “You may have noticed that we rarely go to their sites for examples to use. The simple explanation is that God doesn’t want us to do it and one reason for that direction is that they never say anything new. [. . .]
While we will still check their websites from time to time, . . .”
Zoe interprets: God says no but well, I’ll still disobey Him a wee bit from time to time.
“ Zoe interprets: God says no but well, I’ll still disobey Him a wee bit from time to time.”
Zoe, I was wondering the same thing. Who is the boss of who, hmm?
He clearly states that God doesn’t want him (and his other parts) to do so, yet, apparently there is room for a wee bit of disobedience that won’t lose him a crown or a jewel at least. If God doesn’t want him to then why is he?
I don’t believe for one minute that tee hee is hearing from God. If he truly was then he would have not deserted his family. God of course wouldn’t permit him to do this. Yet tee certainly did. The Bible condemns not taking care of one’s family. So how’d he miss this one verse. If someone is interested in biblical history there’s one person I hear on the radio by the name of l a merzuli. He investigates UFOs. Other things like world events in real time. Creepy politicians and their rotten deeds harming the US and other countries. Tee is a boob and knucklehead. Especially when compared to Merzuli. Tee comes off as rather juvenile and boring lol. No benefit to this country in any way.
My keypad is busted on my phone so the letters dont function properly. Lots of typos. Sorry bout that lol.
Thank you for your thorough takedown of his latest diatribe. I admit, I had to do a double-take when I read his words. Several of his recent posts have referenced us, perhaps not quite as many as usual, but he has continued to disingenuously use our material, and it is hilariously ironic he would call me a distorter. It remains to be seen if he will actually turn a corner, and finally stop harassing us. It is interesting that he thinks our sites attract little attention. I cannot speak for you Bruce, but Meerkat Musings is certainly small fry, though compared to his site… well, since he offers no clues, and has never volunteered much information on that topic, it seems like a strange hill for him to plant a flag.
Since my site began, I’ve had a rough average of around 5,500 views per year. Hardly loads, but then again, I am not blogging for the sake of views. I blog to present my thoughts and opinions, and hopefully entertain a little along the way. I believe you blog for the same reasons, and I would never consider you an attention hound, whereas with Thiessen… well, let’s just say the jury is out on that one.
Honestly, I was shocked by his post. 😢😢
Like you, I write because I want/need to, regardless of traffic numbers. Sure, more readers the merrier. And who doesn’t like it when a post goes viral. But, just as money was never a motivator for me as a pastor, I don’t write ✍️ for clicks. I was always happy when a parishioner slipped me a $20 after church, but I preached regardless of what I was paid. I put in the same work regardless of my pay. I view writing the same way.
Who constitutes the “we” to whom Tee keeps referring? Is he using the royal “we”? Are his posts written by a committee?
Good luck trying to figure that one out. 🤣 I suspect it’s David Tee + God = We.
Here’s Thiessen’s response:
We are not going to address it but make a few observations about his content.
#1. He spends 3000 words to respond to a 319-word post, he must be bored
#2. He likes the attention we give him so he keeps writing about us
#3. He likes playing the victim
#4. He is jealous of us and wishes to be more like us. If he wasn’t & didn’t he would not take the time to address meaningless posts that mention him
We only scanned his faulty response because its content was the same old thing. However, he did take the time to criticize our portfolio website. What he has to gain from doing that, we do not know. It has nothing to do with him and probably makes him even more envious because he can’t write professionally.
We can hardly wait for the distortions MM will bring in a post on his website. Needless to say, their rants won’t inspire us to bring attention to their false information.
— End of quote —
Thiessen admits that he wrote a “meaningless” post. 🤣🤣
I did not criticize his new website. It would have been easy to do so.
Someday, I hope to write “professionally” like the the Mighty DDT — truly a literary giant. Perhaps he would like to share how many books 📕 he’s actually sold, and how much money 💵 he makes from being a “professional” writer. ✍️
https://theologyarchaeology.wordpress.com/2024/10/06/we-got-a-faulty-response/
It’s interesting that Thiessen is whining so hard about a response, nothing compelled him to take yet another swipe at us, yet since he is clearly desperate for attention himself, he wrote, by his own admission, a meaningless post! Of course, he will twist himself into a pretzel to deny he’s ever handled any situation between us in a poor manner, and he will do the same here.
David Tee is a wise old owl. You had better listen to him. What if he is your last opportunity to respond to the gospel? Millions that reject Jesus Christ will face him one day and been shown each opportunity they had to be saved.
Thiessen has not shared the gospel with me one time. How could he since he doesn’t know it himself? Not that you know it either.
Apparently Derrick Thomas Thiessen knows God doesn’t want him here and yet, here he is. Disobedience is a sin.
ISTR you fore-swore not long ago never to write about Tee Hee (love that name Yulya !) again ?
Just saying.
I did, but I repent. 🤣🤣 I typically ignore what Thiessen writes about me. However, sometimes his bullshit gets in my nostrils and I need to sneeze. 🤣❤️🤣
Jed, so your all-loving, all-benevolent loving heavenly father who enfolds humans in his loving arms…..consigns folk to eternity in a lake of fire? Sounds more like a sadistic, masochistic monster to me, (though fortunately, he and his bronze age book of fairy tales that you call the Word Of God are fiction}. Answer me this: Supposing a person committed a terrible crime against me, murdered my whole family for example – and I could take revenge by holding their hand in a hot fire for eternity….I suggest I’d not be able to stand their screams of agony and after 5 minutes or less, I’d let them withdraw it. Yet your omnibenevolent father, your god…….you get the rest.
I don’t know about you Jed, but I stopped believing in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy when I was about 7. And I had MUCH more evidence for both than you have for your sky fairy.
As your soul leaves your body you hear screaming! Faint at first but then it gets LOUDER AND LOUDER!!!!
You land in a deep dark pit a demon growls “SET HIM ON FIRE!!!!”
You scream “NOOO NOOOOOO!!!’ THIS CANT BE HAPPENING!!!!!”
Your body then ignites!!
You scream “AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! AERRRRRRKKKKKKKK !!!!!!!
“IT BURNS!!!!!” “AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
You cry “OH GOD YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE MERCIFUL!!!! (You now realize Anti-theistic atheism was a demonic lie)
Then you remember John 3:16
“For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life “ John 3:16
And Romans 5:8
“God commendeth his love towards us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us” Romans 5:8
You cry out “AHHHHHH!!!!! WHY WASNT I WARNED?????”
Then you remember every sermon you ever heard (or preached!).
You remember the deacon at the front door beggin you to accept Jesus.
You remember the Gideon on the sidewalk sharing the gospel and inviting you to accept Christ but you said it’s all a fairytale.
You remember finding the Tract in the bathroom and laughing and throwing it down.
You remember this post on and others on social media.
You will gnaw your tongue in pain.
You will cry for one drop of water to quench an unimaginable thirst!
You will pray for your unsaved family and friends.
You will despise the moment you were conceived.
You will curse the day you were born!
The fire will go on for 100 years,1,000 years a million years. FOREVER!
It does not have to be this way.
God who does more than exist! Came to earth and became a man and died and rose again so you can be saved!
Place your faith and trust in Jesus Christ in his death and resurrection and you will be saved and given new life and ultimately eternal life
Considering you are routinely vile, not to mention something of a stalker, please explain why anyone should take you seriously?
For those readers/lurkers here that happen to come across this comment, please forgive Revival Fires. He pontificates as though he is the Seat of Moses or at the right hand of Jesus Himself.
REVIVAL FIRES, could you kindly cite a Bible verse demonstrating that demons can call forth tormenting fires in hell? I’d love to read that passage because all I’ve read in the Bible suggests it’s the eternal wrath of God fanning the flames of hell, not demons.
I fear you may be adding to the words of the Bible here, and consequently destined for hellfire yourself as a liar. Just saying. 🙂
Jed can find a better choice than tee hee for preaching Gospel truths.
Revival Liars sat nervously on the bus, not sure of the destination. He was horrified when it pulled into the intake area of Hell.
He and the other new arrivals were herded inside. While he hoped to just blend in, everyone there already knew who he was.
He tried to quietly make his way to his new cell, but was intercepted by the 6’7” demon Azrael. Revival Liars screamed, “Ayyyy, someone help me!” Azrael just laughed and said, “Sorry buddy, in Hell no one can hear you scream”.
Revival Liars, this was a toned down version of the type of comment you reportedly (according to Bruce) attempt to post after Black Collar Crime stories about clerical sexual abuse (Bruce, if I’m wrong I apologize).
And just like my post, your’s aren’t funny (or appropriate) either. So when you try to post about the horrors of hell, it’s very difficult to take you seriously.