JM Ballister, an Evangelical Christian sent me another email. (Please see Bruce, What Did You Betray Jesus For?) Here’s what he had to say:
I wonder if the reason Bruce turned atheist is because he turned queer?
Sadly most people caught in the devil’s snare support the demonic atrocities of baby murder and sodomy.
Ballister is not the first Evangelical Christian to suggest that I became an atheist for perverse (in their minds) sexual reasons; that I am hiding a deep, dark secret about my sexuality. Refusing to accept my story at face value, Ballister and others like him concoct reasons in their demented minds why I “really” left Christianity. No matter what I tell them, they are certain that there is some other reason for my loss of faith, whether anger, hatred, disappointment, health problems, poverty, or a secret desire for cock.
Why do the JM Ballisters of the world always think there’s a sexual reason behind my deconversion? These are the same people who endlessly wage war against those who dare to fuck whomever, wherever, however, and whenever. Granted, Romans 1 does give them justification for their obsession with fucking. The Apostle Paul says that those given over to a reprobate mind (Bruce Gerencser) have illicit sexual desires and crave same-sex intercourse. (Is a blow job or a hand job intercourse? Inquiring minds want to know.) 🙂
Paul writes:
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient. . . Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1:26-28, 32)
The Message puts it this way:
Worse followed. Refusing to know God, they soon didn’t know how to be human either—women didn’t know how to be women, men didn’t know how to be men. Sexually confused, they abused and defiled one another, women with women, men with men—all lust, no love. And then they paid for it, oh, how they paid for it—emptied of God and love, godless and loveless wretches. Since they didn’t bother to acknowledge God, God quit bothering them and let them run loose. And then all hell broke loose: rampant evil . . . They know perfectly well they’re spitting in God’s face. And they don’t care—worse, they hand out prizes to those who do the worst things best! (Romans 1:26-28, 32)
These verses aptly portray how many Evangelicals view atheists. We are vile, evil people who spend our days molesting children, eating fetuses for dinner, and wantonly fucking our brains out at night. Never mind the fact that most atheists are every bit as moral and ethical as Evangelicals. Never mind the fact that many Evangelicals–turned-atheists are not much different from how they were in their Christian days (generally speaking). Sure, our morals and ethics have changed and evolved, but we are still kind, thoughtful, decent people. Sure, for most atheists, their politics have moved leftward, though it would be a huge mistake to assume that all atheists are Democrats, liberals, or pro-choice. I have several atheist friends who are Republicans, who voted for Trump. They love my atheism but hate my politics. Some atheists are even anti-abortion or believe in all sorts of woo. Atheism does not automatically convey to people sound reasoning skills.
For me personally, I am as liberal as they come. I am a democratic socialist, a pacifist, pro-choice, and a rainbow flag waving supporter of LGBTQ rights. I am so far to the left that I fell off the far edge of the flat earth. 🙂 Most local Democrats consider me way too leftist. While I do website work for the local Democratic party, party leaders, in general, are hesitant to embrace me. I’m in the family, but I’m the uncle everyone steers clear of. I will admit that I am somewhat standoffish towards local party officials. My viewpoints are so different from theirs that it is often hard to find common ground. The party is controlled by people my age and older. For a variety of reasons, they have been unable to attract younger adults such as my children. I have some suggestions if anyone wants to hear them. 🙂
Now to my sexuality. No, I am not queer, and neither am I bisexual. I am as heterosexual as they come, as is my wife. Outside of a same-sex moment with Billy K — he kissed me — at age fourteen, I’ve never had a sexual experience with a man. Sorry, there are no queers in my closet. I know, so disappointing. Lots of other stuff in my closet, so keep digging Evangelicals. You might even find my Great Preachers of the IFB porn stash — so-called men of God baring all for Jesus. 🙂
I suspect that if we look in the closets of Evangelicals such as Ballister, we will find all sorts of sexual secrets. My God, we might even find out that they do it cowgirl or doggie style. Such perversion will lead them straight to Hell. Only the missionary position for Evangelicals — straight, monogamous, boring heterosexual sex. Thus saith the Lord! Or James Dobson.
Bruce Gerencser, 67, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 46 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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Ballister, what the actual fuck is wrong with you? If this is what your faith inspires you to do, your faith is worthless.
indeed. funny how ol’ JM has no problem in being a liar and his poor lil’ religion says never to lie.
Well, these evangelical bloggers are definitely obsesses with gay sex. Gay guys and states that they don’t think about gay sex as much as these fundies.
The reality is, most LGBTQ people want to live boring, humdrum lives…like be with their spouse, raise kids, work, vacation, hobbies, go to the store etc etc. And if this fundie and any others knew gay people, they’d have to see the truth: that gays love their spouses and kids enough to die for them. My husband and I were still conservative and still too Christian to deal with a gay family member. But when we saw how much they loved each other, their devotion to each other…well, true love matters. And that helped break us farther away from the excesses of Christianity.
Anyway, it’s good to know that NOT ONE OF THESE FUNDIES has yet to practice “love your neighbor as yourself.” NOT ONE. Nothing they say anymore matters, since they are power hungry and will excuse anything to get it. I’m done with them.
Why would he care so much that he has to keep trolling? What is this deep interest he has in Bruce. I mean,I get it…there is that whole stripper Santa thing that lives rent free in my head, but I don’t think JM Ballesster has that in mind?
I, for one, am proudly queer. I would guess that Ballesster does not truly understand what queer means, since he ties it to either a slur or a synonym of gay. Once a slur, it has be taken back by the community. Ballesster might want to do some deeper research into what it means to be queer.
In fact, I would volunteer to to personally help Ballesster learn more, and would meet him in a public place, like a coffee shop. However, I suspect his particular form of manliness should not allow him to be seen with me, lest his manliness be questioned.
Or, if this public meeting is too personal, I would gladly hold a short seminar in his local church on a Sunday morning. But I suspect the church would not let me in the door, even in my Sunday best.we can’t have those non-binary queers prancing around church, can we?
There is always Google. But I suspect self-education is really a thing for this guy.
Well said, Sage. I immediately thought of the word slur….but in the context of one an 8yo might throw out. One they’d just heard and knew vaguely it was an insult but fortunately they’d grow up and out of such silly childish kiddy talk! Grow up, Ballister, at very least try Sage’s recommendation, google is going to be your best friend here!
Ballister, Bruce doesn’t happen to be queer, but damn, guy, you ask that question as though being queer is a BAD THING. Are you looking for a partner, and wondering if Bruce is interested? If not, what possesses you to be so rude as to ask? It’s inappropriate to speculate on someone else’s sexual orientation unless you yourself are looking.
For that matter, it’s inappropriate to speculate on someone’s gender identity unless it isn’t obvious. Then you’re allowed to politely ask them what pronouns they’d like you to use for them. And then, you USE those pronouns, even if they aren’t what you think they should be.
“But the Bible says!” is the battle cry of someone who doesn’t want to behave like an adult in today’s society. At almost 62 and in ill health, I won’t live to see it, but I long for the day when religious nutjobs of any affiliation have no political power and are dismissed by a healthy society in the US. Oh, and in case you’re rude enough to speculate, I’m a straight woman who just celebrated our 41st wedding anniversary with my husband.
and ol’ JM is doing great as the Christian who has no problem at all bearing false witness against others for his own needs.
Bruce, it’s the suspenders…..Ballister is looking to see if you’re available but doesn’t know how to ask! 😁
JM has a man crush on you, Bruce. Besides that, he needs competent professional help, meaning secular therapy. to improve his mental health.
So. Bruce. Indeed. Curious about your thoughts on attracting young (15 – 29 yrs.) people to the Democratic Party. What do you think is missing ?!?
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“Turned queer?” I swear, for people who spend so much of their time thinking about other people having sex, Evangelicals simultaneously have no idea how attraction actually works and also somehow manage to be more actively perverse than any self-identifying queer I’ve ever met.
I think it’s because they have no sense of boundaries.
It’s time to stop talking, Ballister. You’re telling on yourself.