That is one of the facts of the Christian life. When you start teaching the truth, you will find that you are standing there by yourself except for Jesus.
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If we are the light unto the world, then we cannot fall or falter nor give in to the demands of those who want their own sinful ways. The unbeliever thinks they know better and have a better morality than those who bring the truth but they don’t.
Their idea of morality is to kill an innocent child who cannot defend him or herself just so a 10-year-old can have a childhood or escape the trauma. (Please see Dr. David Tee Says Abortion is Wrong, Even for a Pregnant Ten-Year-Old.) That isn’t being moral nor is it even close to being right. All they have done is shifted the trauma to something they do not accept as human even though it is.
We are supposed to follow Jesus even when it gets tough and this situation is a tough one. We read BG’s response, he finally came in with a few words but he mostly quoted MM.
When we first read it, there were only two comments underneath the article. Those will be the two we will address here:
“This idiot infuriates me to no end. I left my two cents and I’m pretty sure it doesn’t get posted.”
Yes, that person left her two cents and it was not kind. The part she did not post in that comment was that we do not know women or how they feel going through those changes. If you read parts 1 and 2, you will see that we never said we knew how that little girl felt.
But God does and he can use Christian women to minister to that girl and help her make the right decisions and learn what is going on with their body. We as ministers or teachers of God’s word can only let the world know what is God’s way.
Then we have to sit back and let people make their choices. We cannot force people to obey God. Also, what that person does not understand is that men are charged with leading women to obey God correctly and helping them get to a holy life.
We are to teach them the truth so they know what to do in all situations. That is how Christ loved the Church and that is one-way men show their love to their wives, sisters, daughters, and so on.
We are not charged to lead women to sin.
We will deal with MM’s words in different quotes:
“What truly pisses me off is that he is not a parent (well, we know that might be a grey area), yet he would hide behind the Bible to dictate to parents (such as Bruce and myself) as to how to raise our children.”
A preacher or a teacher does not have to be married to bring God’s truth to parents. He has to love God and be willing to teach the truth. God has already laid out what parents are to do. In Deut. 4, God tells Moses to tell the people to raise their children by teaching them his ways, etc.
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Why do you think we defend certain people accused of committing serious crimes? We like justice and we fight so they can have justice. If they don’t get it, no one gets justice. We are to love mercy as well which is why we have taught that zero tolerance is a sinful and non-christian ideology, not a biblical one.
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There is evil in the world that MM and BG deny so they cannot see the truth as they are very deceived. We do not expect them to see the light without Christians praying for them. Then they will understand everything we have taught once they truly believe in Jesus.
But they won’t get those tangible results because too many people are just like them, deciding for evil and trashing the only solution that will make this world better. As well as trashing those who bring God’s ways to them.
What happened to that 10-year-old girl is tragic but tragedy does not give people an escape route to not obey God. We obey God first and the tragedy will be solved without sin.
You can read all of Fake Dr. David Tee’s post here. Tee’s real name is Derrick Thomas Thiessen.
Bruce Gerencser, 66, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 45 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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Dr T is tedious and wrong. There is no place in the Bible where abortion is banned. The sense of all the writings of the Bible seem to indicate that ancient Hebrews considered a person to be a whole person only at birth.
Rabid, toxic, fundamental Christian belief has always been used to control, manipulate, dominate and eradicate, and this same theme continues in this disgusting man’s god based ramblings.
Defend the abuser in the name of god. Attack those who do not fit your particular Christian ideology. Bludgeon indoctrinated believers with bigoted views, teaching them to be reviled by themselves. And for those people who do not fall into line, use social pressure, threats, public attacks, belittlement and when all else fails, fall into relations with self serving politicians to create laws to enforce their religious dogma.
I am currently in a dark place which is sadly a normal occurrence for a person like me. In the past views of Christian assholes like this jerkoff would have destroyed me in this moment. Thankfully I have overcome that manipulation and I am able to give a big double fisted fuck you to people like him and leave him so wallow open his disgusting pigpen of shallowness and ignorance.
Will stop now, anything else,said,would not be very nice.
Between this and Thiessen’s ghastly “Abortion is wrong” screed, I’m getting a deepening sense of something very, very horrible going on. Someone, somewhere is in a lot of pain right now, and it isn’t Mr. Butthurt-R-Us. If I’m correct — and I don’t want to be correct in this case — may it come to light so that appropriate action can be taken to put a stop to it once and for all.
How can Tee make assertions regarding morality when it’s clear he has no moral base?
As he wanders further and further away, I realize, David is lost.
Anyone who defends a rapist or any other kind of abuser has no business talking about morality. And any God that uses such brutality to bring people to him is not one worth worshipping.
I am convinced that fake Dr T is just flat out evil. Anyone who can justify forcing a 10 year old child to proceed with pregnancy has zero common sense or compassion. A 10 year old child’s body may be able to get pregnant, but that small, underdeveloped body is in no way able to safely handle a term pregnancy. This little girl is the sane age as those children slaughtered in Uvalde, TX who needed special, small coffins made for their little bodies.
And we aren’t even covering the psychological and emotional damage either. He is sick, twisted, and evil.
My children’s birth certificates list their weight, length and girth at birth. The smallest weighed 5.5 pounds and was 14 inches around the head and chest (I forget her length) An 28 ounce can of tomatoes is 12 inches around. NO way a ten year old has a pelvis big enough to pass a baby. If that idiot thinks the little girl should try giving birth, he should try inserting something that wide into his own pelvis. And a C-section is major abdominal surgery, with significant risk. I was 20 when my first child was born, and much wider in the pelvis than when I was 12. I know: the clothes I had at 12 almost fit me at 20, except for the hip girth.
This annoying little gnat is pressing buttons and trolling to get a response, since he probably has very few followers. I shall oblige…
Hey, asshole-My name is Lacy and I wrote one of those responses to your rambling, ridiculous bullshit. Yes, I sent you a message telling you, “FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE”. I have a few MORE things to say to you:
Prayers don’t work. Never have and never will. Oh, sure, there is an occassional sitution where chance happens to meet your request for favors-Like, “God, please let me win the lottery” and all of a sudden, you buy a scratch off and win 5.00. Nothing magical about it. Just coincidence. I’m sure those parents in Uvalde, who are mostly Catholic, were praying for God to save their children. Unfortunately, there is no god and if he was real, he’s an asshole, too, for allowing them to be murdered. Please-don’t “pray” for me or any of the rest of us because it only serves to make you feel superior.
I grew up in an abusive home. I also grew up in a church-3 of them to be exact. Baptist, which I was baptized, Catholic and Church of Christ. I’ve had my dose of religion. It never made sense to me, even as a child. Why would a loving god allow innocent children to be born into abusive homes? Where was he when I needed him, AS A CHILD??? I went to church. I read the bible. I prayed every single day, went to Sunday School, Vacation Bible School, was a good student, minded my parents, albeit, mostly out of fear. The church and my people kept telling me I was born a sinner and was bad. Unfortunately, I believed them for many years. Today, after years of counseling for trauma, PTSD, C-PTSD, anxiety and depression, I KNOW I wasn’t “born a sinner” and religion is all made up bullshit.
There is no “sin”. That word has given you and others lilke you, permission to taunt, judge and belittle people who aren’t like you, or maybe even people like you that you just don’t like. You aren’t in a position to be judge and jury according to your own religion anyway. Who are you to say something is “sinful”, especially when it’s not in your book of lies and even if it is, according to your Jesus-WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE?? Abortion being one of many you call, “sin”.
It didn’t exist in the Bronze Age and many women died as a result of miscarriage and full term pregnancies and so did their babies. Where was your god and where was Jesus working his miracles to save the inncocent? And please, don’t come at me with, “It was god’s will”. If god was so powerful, he would have not only saved those children in Uvalde, but also those people who were massacred in Buffalo, Parkland, Columbine, Las Vegas, Killeen and every day on the streets to any major city. I am SURE many were praying, “Please god, don’t let me die”.
I have seen and heard people in trauma situations begging some imaginary friend to save their lives so they could go home to their families. How do I know? Because I worked as a paramedic for a number of years on the streets, then worked in a hospital in a STAT Lab. What are your credentials, outside of being a disgusting, loud mouthed windbag? You don’t know what a 10 year old body would have to go through to carry a baby to term, if that was even possible carrying to term. YOU DON’T KNOW!! You don’t know the mental trauma this girl will have, nor do you care, if she were forced to have a baby from rape. You are a filthy pig and you and your ilk need a reality check: THERE IS NO GOD!!! There is also no satan or demons or angels.
Minimizing rape of a young CHILD by claiming, “It’s the parents sin” is WRONG AND STUPID and you are basically ok’ing this CHILD being abused and traumatized for life and her parents get a slap on the wrist and a stern look from you and your religious junkies, probably because you are protecting one of your own. You are ridiculous and so are the gullable who think they have special favor with some high-in-the-sky fairy who grants wishes-but only to those who he chooses to like-although, he supposedly created everything and everyone…Makes no sense, does it? Neither do you.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE!!