Dr. David Tee, whose real name is Derrick Thomas Thiessen, is a Fundamentalist Christian blogger who has spent the past few years using my writing without credit or attribution for what he calls “teachings.” He takes a similar approach with my friend Ben Berwick. Thiessen has written more posts about the two of us that I can count. Sometimes, I just ignore the man. He’s little more than a gnat flying around my head on a warm summer day. These days, I selectively ignore Thiessen, choosing to only respond to posts I consider so egregious that they demand a response or are personal attacks on my character, family, or the readers of this blog.
Twice this week, Thiessen has demanded that both Ben and me apologize to him, for what I am not sure. I assume he’s demanding an apology because we dared to challenge his assertions about science. Thiessen sees himself as a defender of young earth creationism, a Bible literalist who will resolutely defend all sorts of nonsense because it appears in the Bible or is a personal belief of his. No amount of argumentation will change his mind. (And his defense of clerics who commit sex crimes is beyond disgusting.)
Thiessen claims to have a doctorate, including four science degrees — a claim he recently made for the first time. Geoff, a long-time reader of this blog, had this to say about Thiessen’s education claims and his understanding of science:
I don’t really care what educational achievements Tee claims, the proof of the pudding is in the eating or, in Tee’s case, the writing. There’s almost not a single sentence he writes that I can’t take issue with. Grammatically he’s dreadful, a clear indicator of his lack of proper education. Writing style not withstanding, his reasoning is impossible to understand by anyone with the slightest grasp of logic. He just doesn’t understand the scientific method. He seems to think it’s some isolated part of human existence, standing on its own, when in reality it’s the foundation on which everything we know about the world is based. Science essentially is observation and testing, reaching provisional conclusions, and incorporating them as needs be. Science and the scientific method is actually the only way we have of determining reality.
I agree.
In a post titled, It is Lazy to Simply Say God Did It!, Thiessen wrote (all grammar, spelling, punctuation, and irrationality in the original):
How is exploring the natural physical world going to provide the correct answers to our origins if science is not looking in the right direction or looking in the correct places? Providing the best explanation is not sufficient enough as the best explanation is not the truth.
The best explanation is the lazy man’s way to avoid the problems that arise with scientific research, when that research leads them away from natural solutions and into the supernatural. The scientists are too lazy and dishonest to say that the supernatural method is the only method possible.
Hence, God did it is the correct answer when science has no solutions. Here are some examples of science/evolution cannot answer why something exists.
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How can anyone trust science when it fails to provide the answers to these and a myriad of other mysteries? It is not lazy to say God did it because that is the answer to all the mysteries science cannot answer.
Science is incapable of digging for and finding the truth because it does not want the truth. it wants something that misleads, misinforms, and hides the truth. In other words, they want something they and their biases can live with, and that is not science, nor is it objective.
True science would recognize the weakness of the natural-driven science and recognize God as the creator, as there is no alternative answer. It would also recognize God’s creativity, power, and glory in all of these and other examples science cannot find a natural solution.
It is just idiotic to dismiss the phrase ‘God did it’ because science cannot accept the supernatural. That dismissal is arrogance and ignorance on display at the same time. It is also a demonstration that science is incapable of studying the past as well as deriving the correct answer.
Saying science is the only way to get to the answers is showing a great bias against reality and the truth. Science is no longer objective but a tool to promote one bias or preconceived conclusion over the truth.
Instead of providing the correct answer, science becomes a place for unbelievers to hide from both reality and the truth. No one can trust a research field that takes great pains and many steps to avoid coming to the right answer.
When one expounds the truth, God did it, they are not being lazy, but illuminating the correct answer for everyone so that they are not misled by the lies that come from the deceived and blind secular world.\Yes, God did it all and science is a tool used by evil to lead people away from God and giving him the proper credit and glory.
Only a fool would say or repeat the words in the title in the exact same sentence structure. God created everything supernaturally and without the aid of science. Science is in over its head and outside of its scope when it investigates origins.
The Bible has the correct answer every time.
This is a good summary of the way Thiessen thinks about science.
After responses from both Ben and I, Thiessen wrote a post titled, Even More Proof. What “more proof” of his assertions did Thiessen provide? An eighteen-minute video by Dr. Sabine Hossenfelder titled Scientific Research has Big Problems, and It is Getting Worse.
Thiessen confuses “science research” with “science.” They are not one and the same. Further, Thiessen might want to study what Dr. Sabine Hossenfelder’s critics think of her work.
Professor Dave responded to Hossenfelder’s video:
Professor Dave later released this video:
This brings me to Thiessen’s demand that I apologize. After posting Hossenfelder’s video, Thiessen wrote:
With the above video, we expect a very honest, public, humble, and personal apology for the attacks and off-the-wall comments from both MM & BG.
We know what we are talking about; they do not.
I still haven’t stopped laughing about Thiessen’s demand. There’s nothing I’ve said that deserves an apology. Thiessen is butthurt over our coverage of his bogus “four science degrees” claim. Until Thiessen actually provides evidence for his degrees, there’s no reason for anyone to believe he has them. All we know for sure is that Thiessen attended an unaccredited Bible college in Canada as a young man. And we didn’t even know that until I outed him. Thiessen claims “God knows, and that’s all that matters.” This is a common ploy of Thiessen’s. Don’t want to answer a question? Deflect or make some sort of God claim. End of discussion.
Today, Thiessen published a post titled, Not to Beat a Dead Horse, But. Here’s what he had to say:
MM [Meerkat Musings] continues to make false accusations against us [me], so we [I] are [am] ignoring his latest response. Yet, neither he nor BG [Bruce Gerencser] has [have] apologized for their false accusations and their lies about us [me]. They like to make things personal, which we [I] do not, thus they have no credibility or an honest character.
We [I] have proven our [my] point quite well and guess what. We [I] opened up YouTube a few minutes ago and at the top of the suggestion list was the following video:
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We [I] do not make fraudulent or misleading statements about anything. As you may have noticed, we [I] use legitimate websites and books to support our [my] points, so our [my] readers know they are getting accurate information.
That video is 20 minutes long, and it is well worth listening to as it provides not only information to defend one’s views on science but also provides eye-opening information on what is going on behind the scenes in science.
Maybe MM [Meerkat Musings] is upset as his rose colored view of science is destroyed, and it is not as glorious as he thought it was. Do not be fooled. Christians cannot trust scientists, and they do need to be fact-checked, etc., to get to the truth.
The Bible warns Christians about unbelievers and what they say. Those warnings include scientists and science, whether done by unbelievers or believers. We [I] are [am] not saying Christian scientists are all pure and do not commit fraud.
Those ‘Christian’ scientists who accept and promote evolution cannot be listened to either.
So once again, we [I] are [am] expecting a public, honest, humble, and sincere public apology from both BG [Bruce Gerencser] and MM [Meerkat Musings] because they are falsely accusing us [me] and have done nothing but lie about us [me] through their personal attacks.
Make sure to listen to the entire video to get all the right information on science.
Once again, Thiessen demands an apology from me.
Thiessen believes that Hossenfelder’s eighteen-minute video PROVES that Ben and I are lying about him and his science prowess. This claim has no merit. Besides, does Thiessen really believe that an eighteen-minute video by a controversial theoretical physicist justifies his criticisms of modern science? As I mentioned above, Thiessen confuses “science research” with “science” itself. He stupidly thinks that because a small minority of researchers lie or manipulate data that science itself can be disregarded anytime it disagrees with young-earth creationism and his wooden, literalist interpretations of the Bible.
Speaking only for myself, no apology will be forthcoming. I stand by every word I have written about Thiessen and his errant views of science and the Bible. I do kinda, a little bit, — I mean a teeny, tiny microscopic bit, regret saying a few years ago that Thiessen wants a picture of me naked to hang on his bedroom ceiling, but outside of that bit of risque humor, I stand by what I have written about him.
And Derrick? The offer of a picture still stands, but my nude photos are no longer available. 🙂
Bruce Gerencser, 68, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 47 years. He and his wife have six grown children and sixteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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This is alot of drama
Reducing the issue to personal drama misses the point. Thiessen is a liar, fraud, and thief. He routinely uses my content without permission or attribution. I have no problem with anyone criticizing my writing. Thiessen doesn’t do this. He lies and distorts, and when called out, he attacks my character or misdirects.
Imagine someone repeatedly stealing from you and then using what he has stolen to lie about you or misrepresent your claims. I largely ignore the man, but I will, from time to time, attempt to respond to him. It does no good, but I feel better after doing so.
You should know, Thiessen is not a good person. He’s a good example of the rot that infects Christianity. Unsurprisingly, Revival Fires loves Thiessen.
Both Bruce and I have endured years deceit and aggression from Derrick Thomas Thiessen. It transpires that he has a lengthy history of being abusive and cruel as well. I regret a few elements of my own behaviour where he is concerned, but I suspect Derrick Thomas Thiessen regrets none of his, on the basis of his unreasonable, baseless and unsubstantiated accusations, and his God Complex. Regarding our ‘debate’ on science, I see no reason to apologise for my arguments, and his arguments (he misguidedly believes one video is an epic ‘gotcha!’, overriding every demonstration of the success of the scientific method) are so poor that he ought to apologise to Bruce and I for wasting our time.
personally, i would tell him that i won’t even think about issuing an apology AT LEAST until he gives evidence that his four “science degrees”, and his doctorate, are issued by legitimate universities, and the result of actual years of study, and not imaginary, or issued by diploma mills.
the fact that he continually refers to himself in the third person is a big hint that his proof will never come, or, at the very least, will be insufficient prove his claims. big egos can never admit they’re wrong.
Tee continues to display his inability to reason. Taking just one of his points, that of the ‘supernatural’, science doesn’t discount such a thing, rather it hasn’t yet found a reason to think it is real. Tee’s reasoning is that one should accept the supernatural and work from there, discounting anything that conflicts with it. In reality if there is such a thing as the ‘supernatural’, then science will find it because, even in Tee’s world, the supernatural must manifest itself in the natural world (if it didn’t then he’d have absolutely no reason to believe in it). The most obvious example is that of prayer. If prayers have any effect in the real world then we should be able to see the results. People will frequently claim that their prayers were answered at an individual level, but when tested against reality the evidence just isn’t there. Indeed there have been at least four serious studies of the effect of prayer with regard to medical outcomes and not one of these suggested that prayer statistically exceeded what was likely by chance.
Isaac Newton was a great mind but he was also deeply devout. His model of the solar system based on gravity was fantastic in its day, but didn’t allow for relativity, causing a small apparent error in his model. This he attributed to God, but Einstein revealed that this was nothing more than a gap in Newton’s knowledge, something Newton could not possibly have realised at the time. So much for trying to fit God into the picture.
The links you give to Professor Dave’s video are excellent. I have bookmarked his site for further review. Thanks for sharing them.
I have been hearing a lot of anti-science rhetoric from people who should know better. Dave explains how easy it is for people to get off on the wrong track. Web content that in some way fuels a wrong populist attitude can get a lot of clicks and can make a lot of money. Good people can start making videos that encourage those clicks and make money, while still propounding good. If it continues, the sites can spread extreme propaganda for the sake of making money.
Dave’s videos were eye-opening.
His writing and arguments seem to be getting lazier by the year. Saying god did it is about the laziest way to try and prove anything. Which god by way because the christian god was not the first on the scene, he just happens to be the most popular at the moment for some people. Thiessen is a broken record just repeating the same thing over and over again.
What an utterly miserable twit this guy is.
I’m torn between laughing at him and wanting to slap him in the head.
I’d feel sorry for his lack of cognitive skills except he’s willfully mean spirited and rude. Obnoxious.
But you should apologize. Like this… ‘So sorry you’re not terribly bright or able to interact with the world in a rational manner, that must be really hard for you.’
Dr. Tee is a person I call an absolutist. He has found his niche and information and refuses to consider any other explanations, and attack people disagree with him or show contrary evidence.
I am writing this because my husband happened to put a Blind Boys of Alabama CD on. We listen to all kinds of music, and this is gospel music. This group has a long history. Rather than attacking people they concentrate on creating good CDs. I think they will attract more Christianity than Dr. Tee.
This guy should know better. He’s being like a stalker. Seriously? He wrote 100 blogs about you, that’s just silly 😜. If he reads 📚 the Bible,, he should know that, in the book of Job, it says very clearly, “A man deserves mercy from his friends, EVEN THOUGH he forsakes the fear of the Almighty.” Words of Job. The most righteous man on 🌎 earth, at the time. Compassion, not attacking. Take a walk in their moccasins. Sometimes, there is a time to just completely disengage.
He’s impervious to any instruction from the Bible. I am too, but the difference is he professes to be a Christian. Last I knew, Christians are supposed to obey the teachings of the Bible.
I usually ignore Thiessen, only responding when he writes egregiously inflammatory posts. I challenged him to a public debate, providing he uses his real name and uses his actual face. No chance in hell he will do this. Thiessen has been hiding out in the Philippines for 20 years, safe from American law enforcement. Check out other posts about him if you want details.
Thiessen has behaved this way on other sites too. He gets banned, calling it “persecution.” I would ban him too, but he uses a VPN to avoid the ban/block software I use. Revival Fires does the same.
Derrick has a God Complex. I genuinely believe he has some sort of mental disorder that compels him to believe he is absolutely right in all things, and that he should not be questioned on his arguments or behaviour. However, there is a shred of critical thinking; he dares not link to either my site or Bruce’s, and he dares not do or say anything that might lead his limited readership to us. This is because deep down, he knows he is in error in so many ways, and he knows his cruelty, hypocrisy and dishonesty would be exposed.
Another day, another disgusting comment, from a disgusting Christian I had to delete.🤬🤬
Let’s not forget Thomas Edison! The guy who invented the light bulb 💡 ✨️ 😎 Hehe…
Thomas Edison is famous for saying, “I have not failed. I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.” Dude didn’t take “failure” as setback, just as one more step towards the goal. There’s LOTS of good if you look for it, but if you just look at what’s bad all day, what’s that gonna accomplish?
Please stop making assumptions about my mental state or that of others.
Thiessen’s delusional, paranoid, self-righteous response:
It seems that we triggered our two detractors by stating they owe us an apology. Their two lunatic rants were off the charts that measure abuse, blue content, and other irrational content.
They still owe us big apologies for the hatred and slanderous stuff they routinely say about us. One thing is for sure, we understand why their websites are so low-rated. They have nothing to offer anyone.
Even their rebuttals to our three You can’t trust science articles were absent of anything intelligent or content from credible resources that proved them right and us wrong. They could do nothing but attack us, as they had nothing to stand on to challenge what we said.
We published the truth about science, and they did not like that. But they could not prove us wrong. All they could do was be abusive, insulting, and error-filled. We have other things to talk about in the coming days, so we will not address those two for a while.
All unbelievers can do is deny the truth. There are no alternatives to turn to that upend scriptures. Scriptures (The Bible) are being proven true every day, and science is being exposed for what it is- a tool to lie to the public.
Dear Diary,
I am so tired of “those two” so we (all inclusive) shall take a break, because they are mean and stupid . . . but we (all of us) will be back.
Sincerely,
All of us.
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Hahaha ‘low rated’. Sounds like feckin’ dumald and his ‘low IQ individuals’. I think dumald may actually be a little more intelligent than thiessen, after all, he’s the president and thiessen is an exile.
That guy is a drama queen 👸 🙄. Sigh.
RF isn’t a Christian. He’s a religious fanatic/ narcissist. And just deluded enough to believe that he’s a follower of Jesus. After reading all his comments over the years, I realized recently that this kid isn’t a believer.