Local Man Asks Newspaper Readers to Pray for Me

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Recently, a local Evangelical man responded to my recent letter to the editor of the Defiance Crescent-News about the LifeWise Academy release time program. His letter was published today. Here’s what he had to say. The title, by the way, is added to the letter by the editor of the newspaper. He is also a Christian, so I expect he agrees with its sentiment.

Pray for this man

The Bible (Matthew 24:10-12) speaks of a falling away of the church as we approach the end of an age. I can’t think of more classic example of that than an ex-pastor of decades long dedication maligning the Bible, the Church and a religious organization. [Ooh, I am a classic example of the “great falling away” the Bible speaks of.]

That is the rotted fruit of freewill that God has given us. I cannot imagine the turmoil faced by this man that has caused such a gigantic swing in his spiritual thinking. [Note the straw man he has built in his mind about me: a man with a life filled with turmoil. As far as freewill is concerned, it is a myth. I will gladly debate any and all local Christians on this issue, especially since the Bible does NOT teach humans have freewill.]

But I don’t take that away from him. It is his choice, and it will be his consequence for it. The sad fact is by his public announcement he may well lead others to follow his path, and that too will have serious consequences. [I can only hope.]

The organization which he berates not only leads children to the Cross of Jesus, but it also builds character and honesty and fosters love, something that is missing in some of the homes these children come from. [And they do so by hiding their true agenda.]

Matthew 18:6: “but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, It would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.” [Awesome. No Hell for me. This man suggests putting a millstone around my neck and throwing me in the sea to drown. What an awesome God he serves.]

Please, may every Christian who reads this, pray for this person. [Thousands of Evangelicals have prayed for me over the past seventeen years, without success. Either God ain’t listening or he doesn’t exist. My money is on the latter.]

Ron Bliss
Wauseon

— end of letter

Today, I also received an email from a local man praising me for my letter to the editor. And for that I am grateful.

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Bruce Gerencser, 69, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 48 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.

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16 responses to “Local Man Asks Newspaper Readers to Pray for Me”

  1. Neil Rickert

    That Bible passage, Matt 24:10-12, fits better as referring to the MAGA movement than it does when referring to Bruce Gerencser.

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    Benny S

    Ron Bliss of Wauseon (referring to the “ex-pastor”): “…That is the rotted fruit of freewill that God has given us….”

    Me: Ron, it sounds like your issue is with God and the way (in your opinion) he chose to create the world. Please re-direct your criticism.

    Ron Bliss of Wauseon (referring to the “ex-pastor”): “…he may well lead others to follow his path, and that too will have serious consequences. [I can only hope.]….”

    Me: You can only hope?! WTF Ron?!?

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    Revival “I Lie for Jesus” Fires

    It is true. Bruce Gerencser and Sam Kinison and many like them are classic examples of what God’s Word talks about concerning the great falling away.

    Biblically. Judas Iscariot walked with Jesus physically for three years and did not accept him.

    Demas also fell away.

    Yes sir. Pray for this man that his life and heart will be changed and soul be saved from the lake of fire that is VERY REAL!

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        Revival “I Lie for Jesus” Fires

        You know absolutely nothing about my life grandpa. Nothing. Soon and VERY SOON you are going to be wishing you were never born or conceived.

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          Sure I do. Your behavior tells everyone everything they need to know about you. A tree is judged by the fruit it produces, and your violent, filthy pornographic comments suggest your tree is filled with rooting fruit.

          “Soon and VERY SOON you are going to be wishing you were never born or conceived.”

          Is that a threat of physical violence?

        2. Everyone knows your story RF. You are abusive, cruel and cowardly. That’s your story, and it’s neither impressive nor intimidating.

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      Matthew

      Your entire theology relies on dismissing real-world clarity as a ‘falling away.’ Bruce Gerencser is a scholar who found the contradictions you actively ignore, and Sam Kinison was a comedian whose tragic death had zero to do with theology. Your selective use of ‘Biblical examples’ like Judas and Demas proves your system can only cope with complex human failure by labeling it a divine plot. I’ll stick to facts, not fear tactics.

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    Revival “I Lie for Jesus” Fires

    No absolutely not. Its a promise buddy of what is to come eternally. A place where you will be weeping and screaming and begging for water.

    Remembering every sin you have ever committed.

    Remembering every time you heard the gospel. Or in your case preached it. But never truly accepted him or his grace.

    You will wish you had never existed 😭

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      Surely you are not so stupid that you don’t realize that your behavior directly affects the willingness of people to listen to you.

      I don’t listen to you because you are a homophobic bully, a man who loves writing violent porn — living out some sort of sick fantasy he has.

      Now go away.

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      GeoffT

      Revival Fires, you seem to relish the claim you make that Bruce is going to suffer in hell for eternity. Putting to one side the nonsensical nature of the facts of your claim (I can absolutely assure you there is no such place as hell, nor suffering in eternity) do you not realise the conceited nature of your claim, surely a much more serious sin than Bruce’s sincere (albeit misguided in your mind) beliefs? By your own standards you are very much headed for hell!

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    matilddaa

    Dear Mr Ron – and RF too – if prayer is a proven effective way to get Bruce and us here back into faith that means god is omnipotent, right? Please then may I ask your prayers for my friend’s dog, this week she told us its back legs have become paralysed. X-tian friends have even written us a template-prayer. ‘Back legs of Maxie, move in the name of jesus. I speak life into him in jesus’ name. Amen’ ….I’ll let you know that goes…..oh, and god, do you think you might find time to end wars, give food to millions of starving people and homes to the homeless and refugees? An ex-fundy myself, I can’t now believe that I spent decades praying over hundreds of topics…..and it took me so long to see that yelling at the ceiling was all that it was…..cos god is a fiction. Or a cruel monster who couldn’t care less about human suffering.

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    Perhaps Ron you could take your prayer to your prayer closet?

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    “That is the rotted fruit of freewill that God has given us.” Huh. Interesting that Ron believes God gave us rotten fruit to work with. Nice of God to intentionally give us something rotten.

    RF is yet again gleefully threatening Bruce with an impending good time in hell. I’m sure Bruce is super duper scared! I don’t even know why I read anything RF writes – I guess I’m drawn to rubber-necking at car wreck that is RF’s poor grammar and mean demeanor. It’s still astonishing how many people didn’t pay attention in grammar classes.

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    grasshopper

    The Bible is its own refutation of free will. The Bible HAD to be written for the salvation for all us sinners, right? God wants all of us to be saved. So all the actors in the Bible could not have done a jot or a tittle differently, otherwise God’s message would not be the one we have.
    How could we learn how to be moral beings if missing from the Bible is the story of how Lot fucked his own daughters, or we missed out on the beautiful, inspiring Psalm which says “Happy is the one who seizes your infants / and dashes them against the rocks.”

    Clearly, we have the message God wanted us to have, and it was delivered by mere meat-robots for Yaweh.

  9. Troy

    Bruce, you have to be just a little bit flattered! I’d like to comment on something this guy said about Lifewise,

    “The organization which he berates not only leads children to the Cross of Jesus, but it also builds character and honesty and fosters love, something that is missing in some of the homes these children come from.”

    Since only Christian parents opt in, how is all that stuff missing? But you see what they’re really going for. Pressure your friends to go, and if you don’t you’re stuck in school with the other heathens in school jail er I mean study hall. Oh and Mr. Bliss, it isn’t all about “the cross o’ Jesus”… you have to save their soul with the revelation of the flat, non-moving Earth created on Sunday October 23, 4004 b.c.
    As I’ve pointed out in other comments. This once a week charade of about 30 minutes of release time (after you get the kids to shut up) doesn’t do much of anything, except a vigorous halo polishing. I was thinking what kills Lifewise? When the first kid is molested. You know it’s going to happen.

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