Grace: Hello Bruce, I read your article. You were a pastor for many years, and now you are an atheist. Is that correct?
Bruce: Yes, that’s correct. I was an Evangelical pastor for 25 years. Thanks!
Grace: And now you are an atheist? Is that correct?
Bruce: Yes. I deconverted seventeen years ago.
As you can readily see, I politely and pointedly answered her questions. Yet, Grace’s questions were just a set up for her finishing blow.
Grace: Pastors lead people to hell. So you were on your way to hell then and now.
Luther was as much a heretic as the Catholic church.
The great evangelical disaster leads people to hell.
OSAS is Unscriptural.
“by faith alone” is Unscriptural.
Tithing is not NT Scriptural.
Church buildings are Unscriptural.
But at least you worked Some for a livig [sic].
It’s a shame you led people to hell then and are still on your way there.
But, your choice.
Peace
As you can see, Grace is certain she is right and I am wrong. No discussion required. She knows I’m wrong and headed for Hell; that my entire sixty-eight years of life is a fraud; a lie.
Never mind the fact that Grace doesn’t know anything about me other than an unnamed article she read. To that I say:
It’s stupid and embarrassing to give an answer before you listen. Proverbs 18:13
Bruce Gerencser, 68, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 47 years. He and his wife have six grown children and sixteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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Haha! Good 👍 verse!! Sorry if I came across as assuming in last comment, I was honestly just going by what you had shared in your posts 📫. I’m not in a position to assume anything about anyone. I do talk alot, but I listen (read) an awful lot too. Like that guy on ” Trains, Planes and Automobiles” But sometimes my high-functioning autism hyper-focus gets me overly focused, lol. Good for learning and concentrating, not always a plus when it’s like not getting people’s need for personal space right off the bat. Think: Shrek’s donkey 🌟 Ain’t NO ONE seen a donkey fly! Speaking of which, those Wright Brothers need to be added to the list! Lol 😆 🤣
That wasn’t a Christian, that was obviously a fake, just being a troll. No such thing as a Christian who says faith, etc. etc. pastors, churches, giving, by faith in Christ alone, etc. is of the devil. It looks as though this blog attracts some hecklers, posing as Christians ✝️. I wouldn’t even give them 😉 a minute of my time or attention if I were you. Joy thieves.
Sigh.
I don’t think you understand your family very well. I have received thousands of similar comments and emails from saved, sanctified, Bible believing followers of Jesus.
If someone says he is a Christian, I accept their self identification at face value. Rarely am I granted the same courtesy.
How unfitting to be named “Grace”.
That’s what I thought too. 😢
Grace is trusting in a works salvation.
Oh no, “True Christian Revival Fires” thinks “True Christian Grace” is not a Christian. How rich 🤣🤣🤣 is that . . . 🤣🤣🤣
Neither of them think they could be wrong, once again proving “certainty breeds arrogance.”
Why is it so difficult for these folks to string together a coherent thought? Probably because the people running the “Christian schools” they attend decided that good grammar is the tool of the devil…🤦♀️
Grace sent me a four word response:
I don’t. God does.
Sigh. Sadly, Grace is a real person. Imagine going though life thinking this way. I can imagine it. I remember having hardcore Fundamentalist Christian beliefs. I had no space for disagreement. It’s an awful (and impossible) way to live.
I’m trying to figure out what Grace is right about?
That kind of certainty is exhausting, as I recall. But, I wonder if for some people they are less exhausted just knowing God does it. Easier for them? Thing is, if God does it, why do they bother reaching out? If God does it, go, be at peace and let Him. After all, didn’t He start the whole thing? (Rhetorical)
Grace, so your god is going to give me a fireproof body in your fictitious hell so the fire won’t consume me in seconds? I will feel the pain of burning forever**
I say this, if someone had harmed me badly and I could get revenge by holding their hand against a hotplate on my stove for 5 minutes, I suggest I’d remove it after a very few seconds. As a decent, reasonably compassionate human, I wouldn’t be able to stand their screams of agony any longer. Yet you claim your omni-benevolent heavenly father who loves his created beings, will, along with all his sheeple, watch and rejoice at that eternal pain suffered untold billions of people in hell.
**It was the excellent Obstacle Chick, commenting here, who said those who get chucked into the eternal lake of fire, must have been given new fireproof bodies so they can experience the constant pain of immolation forevermore. That’s not the action of a loving deity, it’s the action of one who enjoys cruelty, brutality, torture and horrific suffering.
What Could Possibly Go Wrong???
Lol 😆 TikTok joke: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSAFvKxMV/
Oh grow up, Ms Beaudry. I won’t watch tik-tok or similar sites…..their idea of ‘a joke’ almost always involves humiliating, assaulting, invading the privacy of, or behaving completely inappropriately to strangers in public places just to create ‘content.’ I’d like a real answer to my question. How can a loving deity give and enjoy eternal pain for so many of the humans he created?
At least 2 TV shows in the last 10 years have Lucifer quit being the lord of hell. Of course a 3rd just had Donald Trump replace Saddam Hussein as Satan’s gay lover. Those shows give more recent information of what goes on there than anything i’ve heard from evangelical christians recently. If Grace would kindly give us actual empirical proof beyond “the bible says,” I might be inclined to take her seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaakNHzFoXE This finish of this Youtube video should lessen the concern of Bruce Gerencser spending that much time in Hell. I’m just kidding.
Lol, Brocken!! That’s just too much, 😂 hilarious!!