Bruce, God Healed This Atheist and He Will Do the Same for You

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Over the past four months, an Evangelical woman named Terri has sent me more than fifty emails and commented over one hundred fifty times. I asked her five times to please stop emailing me. I also let her know that many of her comments were unhelpful, and, at times offensive. Did this stop her from emailing me? No.

Terri is friendly and polite, but she lacks all sense of personal boundaries and respect. If someone politely asks you not to do something, yet you repeatedly do it anyway, that reveals a lack of respect. Terri will deny being disrespectful or not honoring boundaries, but most readers will likely conclude that sending me fifty emails and leaving one hundred fifty comments — many of which were sent after I asked her to stop — is excessive. Include the comments I didn’t approve, and the total nears two-hundred.

I don’t understand this kind of behavior, mainly because I have never emailed- or comment-bombed someone. What’s the point? I suspect Terri thinks she is duty bound to “share” the truth — her personal interpretations of the Bible — with me, even if I know a hell of a lot more about that Bible, theology, and church history than she does. She likely believes God wants her to share the gospel and the love of God with everyone, even those who have told her they are not interested in what she is peddling. I wish Terri and other Evangelicals would stop behaving like this, but I fear it’s pathological. “Bruce is headed for Hell, and needs Jesus,” zealots think, and God dammit, they are going to irritate the hell out of me regardless of whether I ask them to stop. In their minds, my personal discomfort is the price I must pay for the “good news.” Little do they know or care that their behavior is actually driving me away from Christianity, and I suspect that thousands of the people who read this blog will say the same.

Several days ago, Terri sent me the following email:

Bruce! Just wanted to encourage you here…

Want to encourage me? Send me bags of cash or mind your own business. I told Terri several times that I was not interested in what she had to say about my health. She has no relevant expertise other than the ability to do a web search, so there is no reason I should pay attention to her anecdotal stories and personal opinions. It is evident Terri either doesn’t understand how sick I am or doesn’t care. Or she could be one of those Christians who thinks it is their calling in life to “fix” people. I regularly see a primary care doctor, neurologist, endocrinologist, dermatologist, gastroenterologist, and a podiatrist. I have had a full-day work-up for multiple sclerosis (MS) at Toledo Hospital and a comprehensive examination for fibromyalgia at the University of Michigan. These and other medical professionals treat me for gastroparesis (lack of proper bowel function), endocrine pancreatic insufficiency (pancreas doesn’t produce digestive enzymes), peripheral neuropathy (nerve pain), fibromyalgia (which causes widespread muscle pain and fatigue), degenerative spine disease (think, my spine is literally falling apart), Morton’s neuroma (nerve inflammation in both feet), high blood pressure (well managed), diabetes (well managed), increasing memory loss (early-stage dementia? God, I hope not.), tinnitus, vision problems (my vision flipped from nearsightedness to farsightedness), bladder and bowel incontinence, and four bouts of basal/squamous cell skin cancer.

Most of these diseases are incurable. All that my doctors can do is encourage me and treat my symptoms. My primary care doctor — who has been treating me for almost thirty years — admits that I am his enigma — perplexing, challenging, difficult to treat.

I live with constant pain, from my head to the bottom of my feet. I require a cane to get around home, and a wheelchair or walker when I (rarely) have the opportunity to go to town. I have lost more than one hundred pounds, and I am plagued with frequent bouts of nausea and vomiting. And then comes nighttime; you know when most people go to sleep. I too lie down to sleep, but it takes me HOURS to fall asleep — with narcotic pain medication and cannabis — thanks to horrible pain from my neck and spine to my legs. Sure, if I took a lot more Hydrocodone and cannabis, my pain would be less, but I would sleep all the time, and this blog you are reading would be no more. I must choose between the two.

Typically, I get up in early afternoon. After getting up, I use the bathroom, dress, and wait for Polly to come home from work at 3:20 pm. We talk a bit, eat dinner, and then I watch a sports news program. Afterward, if I have any steam left, I start to write. I usually have three to five hours to maintain this blog and publish content. Some days (increasingly so) I don’t have the physical wherewithal and mental acuity to meaningfully write. On these days, I spend the night reading, watching TV, and listening to podcasts. If I am able, I try to do household chores or take care of smaller projects around the house. Three years ago, I reignited my love for post-war Lionel O-gauge electric trains. I threw myself into the project, hoping to build a train layout in an upstairs room for my grandchildren and I to enjoy. Sadly, it’s been almost two years since I navigated the stairs to work on the 12′ by 12′ layout.

Knowing these things, do you really think I want to receive medical advice from you, especially when you have no relevant expertise nor do you know me will enough to invade my personal space to give me advice? Readers such as Carolyn, my editor, Zoe, ObstacleChick, Geoff, Ben, or Troy, to name a few, have been my friends for a long time. They have invested a lot of time in reading my writing and supporting my work. None of them offers me unsolicited medical advice. At best, they might send me a link to an article, asking me if I had seen it, but that’s it. They know what I need is love, respect, and understanding, and not uneducated, unprofessional medical advice.

a beautiful thing happened in our city a few months ago…a man who lived alone, and who was an atheist, became very sick. He was all alone, no family to take care of him, and so he decided to pray for 3 days straight. At the end of it, he found himself healed!! He’s doing great now!!

This story sounds like a sermon illustration; a fictional story meant to prove a point. If this really happened, I would love to interview the man. I want to know what sickened him. Did he take medication or see doctors? Who was the doctor, so I can interview him too. I want to know if he thinks this man was miraculously healed.

Further, how does Terri KNOW it was her God who healed this man? Satan, a divine healer too, could have healed the man. How does she know that the man was healed as the direct result of three days of non-stop prayer? All we have is a story told by an Evangelical Christian who has spun other fantastical stories before this one. I didn’t believe those stories, and I don’t believe this one either. My unbelief can be easily remedied by providing sufficient empirical evidence to justify the healing claim. I am ready to start a betting pool on whether this evidence will be forthcoming. My money is on “no!”

Terri refuses to accept that most of my physical maladies are incurable. All doctors know to do is treat my symptoms. I have had major surgery twice, five outpatient surgeries, and endured several experimental procedures. There’s not anything else that can be done for me (though I may need surgery on my spine again). So I understand the compulsion some Christians have to offer unsolicited medical advice or prayers. That said, I have made my desires clear, so this unwanted email tells me that what I want or need doesn’t matter to Terri.

God is no respecter of persons…if He did it for him, He will do it for others, too. That’s hope!!

Which God? If the woman who sent me the email worships the Christian deity, I ask again, which Christian God since there are so many? Terri knows I am an atheist, so God talk has no effect on me other than to irritate and annoy me. That’s why Evangelicals are typically given one opportunity to comment. I approve ALL first-time comments, but I encourage Evangelicals to say all they need to say in their first comment. Preach away, but you will likely only have one opportunity to put in a good word for Jesus. I gave Terri a lot of space to spread her viewpoint, but eventually I had enough. I asked her to write one final comment, which I would turn into a post. No edits, no moderation. Say what you want, but that’s it. What did Terri do? She sent me a link to a video she wanted me to post. I, of course, refused.

I love it when Evangelicals say that “God is no respecter of persons,” when the Bible reveals a deity that is very much so, starting with God initially choosing the Jews as his covenant people over the Gentiles. The doctrines of election and predestination also show that God is certainly a respecter of persons.The Bible is littered with examples of the triune God playing favorites.

Further, I am an atheist, so claims of God’s existence fall on deaf ears. Personal testimonies and subjective experiences have no power to explain the existence of the Evangelical deity. These are faith claims, a faith I do not, nor will ever, have.

Does the Bible reflect a God who heals people with respect to who and what they are? Of course not. If God is no respecter of persons and prayer can affect healing, why do MOST Christians go through life unhealed? Churches are filled with praying sick people.

Having said all of that, I will make a wager with Terri’s God. “Jesus, you supposedly healed a sick atheist, so I know you can heal me. If you heal me, I will immediately profess faith in you and spend the remaining days of my life worshipping and serving you. I will shutter this blog, and do all I can to preach the gospel.” The ball is in Jesus’ court. “Heal me, Jesus, and I am yours. If not, I will continue on in my atheist ways, confident that you are a myth, a figment in the imagination of countless Christians.” Think Jesus will heal me? Imagine what a trophy I would be if Jesus healed me, leading to me confessing faith in him. I won’t hold my breath, stop taking medications, or cancel my doctor’s appointments. Stupid I am not. If I have learned anything in my sixty-eight years of life, it is this: Jesus is not the Great Physician and prayer is worthless outside of giving the appearance you are doing something meaningful for people, when you actually are not.

I hope Terri “hears” me. Same goes for others who think my health problems are opportunities for them to put in a word for Jesus. I am NOT interested, and the more you ignore my wishes, the farther you drive me away from Christianity. As of the writing of this post, I can’t think of one reason why I would ever want to become a Christian again. I know I will receive several emails/comments threatening me with judgment and Hell. Whatever — such threats have no effect on me — and I mean none.

Saved by Reason,

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Bruce Gerencser, 69, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 48 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.

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18 responses to “Bruce, God Healed This Atheist and He Will Do the Same for You”

  1. you have a lot more patience with these … PEOPLE than i would have, especially after having asked them, nicely, to go away and quit bothering you. 😒

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      My post is me running out of patience. I’m a nice guy, generally polite, kind, and respectful. But, I do have limits. 😂 Repeatedly, I asked her to stop. She didn’t, so here we are.

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    GeoffT

    I was astounded recently when I glanced down the list of commenters and saw Terri near the top, when she’s only, to my mind, become a fairly recent one. It did cross my mind that I hadn’t seen anything from her recently. To be honest, whilst she posted a whole lot of nonsense I did chuckle at a lot of it!

  3. Isn’t there anyway to block her from emailing you? Or posting comments?

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    Terri: “a beautiful thing happened in our city a few months ago…a man who lived alone, and who was an atheist, became very sick. He was all alone, no family to take care of him, and so he decided to pray for 3 days straight. At the end of it, he found himself healed!! He’s doing great now!!”

    Zoe: Is there a chance that he had a viral sickness and it ran it’s course in due time?

    For every story there are others stories. Mine involved my born-again friend who had many health-related issues. She knew me as a once born-again friend who changed her mind about her former belief-system and we were able to remain friends.

    One day as her pain became intolerable, I went to sit with her. I asked her if I could tend to her feet. Massage them, apply lotion and help her breathe through her pain. She rested. We didn’t talk. I certainly didn’t pray for her. She had tears in her eyes and she started to share how some of her Christian friends had been unkind to her about her illness. She was single and lived alone and struggled with finances. Unable to work due to illness. A church full of people who knew her circumstances, but they tired of her need. Despite her faith, she struggled.

    I listened. At one point I told her I was sorry for her pain (it takes one to know one) and that I was sorry her friends had been cruel to her. I don’t understand it. Then she said: I don’t know Zoe. All I know is, an atheist is rubbing my feel and the Christians are no where to be found.

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      Let me write that last part again. I don’t know Zoe. All I know is, an atheist is rubbing my feet and the Christians are no where to be found.

      1. BJW

        So sad! I do know some people who are good people and Christians. I used to believe that most Christians were good and kind. I no longer believe that, and now if they brag/mention about Jesus, my heart sinks. I live close to senior condo apartments. One lady who I chatted with didn’t mention Jesus, but she was antivax. And the other lady was a bit kinder, maybe, but had to talk about Jesus and having the right kind of religious faith. sigh

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          Asphalt-Type Person

          You ever notice Christians always offload their responsibility to be decent human beings onto Jesus? It’s so convieinent for them that they can go on being assholes.

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    Karuna Gal

    Terri’s blathering, er, writing, reminds me of evangelist Kathryn Kuhlman’s preaching style. Her T.V. show was called “I Believe in Miracles.” Kuhlman was relentlessly cheery. My mom went to a Kuhlman revival in Pittsburgh one time to be entertained, because Kuhlman put on such a good show. (My mom was a staunch Roman Catholic.) https://missouriencyclopedia.org/people/kuhlman-kathryn-j. Video: https://youtube.com/shorts/ihBNpy7c6dA?si=CdKrwaHaNjIAq0FW

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    It was aliens. Aliens healed the atheist man who was alone and ill.

    See how silly that sounds? Yet it’s just as likely as God/Jesus/fill-in-the-blank entity in this most-likely fictional anecdote.

    Other than being annoyed, I feel sorry for people like Terri who are so zealous in their desire to spread their religious mythology that they refuse to heed the boundaries people have erected. I’m not sure what drives these folks so – maybe fear, a sense of superiority, feeling a sense of purpose, insecurity, diligence, who knows.

    Bruce, it is annoying when people try to give unsolicited medical advice. I know they mean well, but unless one has an MD and has practiced a particular specialty and worked with the specific patient, one isn’t qualified to diagnose and treat random people. Interestingly, all the doctors I know are the LAST people to offer unsolicited medical advice to people who are not their patients.

    We appreciate the time and effort you put into this blog. I cannot fully understand the toll it takes on you (no one outside your skin can), but I appreciate your effort and your words.

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    Bruce: “Over the past four months, an Evangelical woman named Terri has sent me more than fifty emails and commented over one hundred fifty times. I asked her five times to please stop emailing me. I also let her know that many of her comments were unhelpful, and, at times offensive. Did this stop her from emailing me? No.”

    Zoe: That’s a lot of correspondence.

    I’ve often wondered about the lack of boundaries that exists in faith-based systems. As a born-again Christian we were to go and tell. There really aren’t any boundaries in a “go and tell” religion. It’s seen as an order from God. Just do it. And do it . . . and do it . . . and do it.

    Then we have praying. Seems there are no boundaries there as well. Along with the “go and tell” there are the “we’re praying for you” whether we like it or not. Pray without ceasing. Another order. Interesting when you consider the prayer closet admonition.

  8. velovixen

    One thing folks like Terri never seem to understand is that their haranguing stresses people out for no good reason: the last thing an un-well person needs.

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    Matthew

    “a beautiful thing happened in our city a few months ago…a man who lived alone, and who was an atheist, became very sick. He was all alone, no family to take care of him, and so he decided to pray for 3 days straight. At the end of it, he found himself healed!! He’s doing great now!!”

    THREE DAYS? That’s a record for her god. It took him 400 or 430 years to realize that his ‘chosen people’ were enslaved people in Egypt. This guy’s lucky god only took three days to heal him.

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    matilddaa

    I engaged with Terri a couple of times. I’d already formed the conclusion she was incapable of intelligent, logical discussion, she was hermetically sealed in her own version of fundy-ism – the only correct one in her mind. Then she responded to a regular commenter here who had challenged one of the many silly things she said with (paraphrased) ‘Don’t be so mean to me, my mother just died.’ A head-desk and a face-palm from me, to read that excuse for her illogical views.

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      I did end up arguing with the “lamp-post” and found it quite enlightening. 🙂

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        matilddaa

        I thought it was you, though wasn’t entirely sure I’d remembered correctly. You were great. And in my comment above, I nearly used the expression, ‘arguing with a brick wall.’ (Either describes it perfectly.)

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    Cleora Borealis

    All I kept thinking, Bruce, as I read about Terri was, “which came first, her psychopathy or her evangelism?” Yes, I have no clinical or diagnostic training, but I can recognize the signs of a mental illness that requires treatment. Terri’s demands for you to change are her way of coping with her own world being out of control. I would bet real money that Terri has few friends, if any, no church home, and is often in trouble with law enforcement for harassing and public disturbance.
    🤬 She seems classic to me!

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      Yulya Sevelova

      It sounds like Terri has a form of Religious OCD, and it’s ultimately created by fear. Even if their intentions are good, it’s the fear that pushes them not to respect boundaries. And makes them do crazy things.

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