Questions: Bruce, It Seems Like You Never Really Left Jesus

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Joel asked:

Why have you stayed on the topic of God/Jesus for so long? It seems like you’ve never really fully left Jesus. At least, thats what it seems like.

This seems more like an accusation than it does a question, but I will assume good faith, and answer accordingly.

I have spent my entire life talking and writing about God, Jesus, the Bible, and Christianity. In 2007, I started blogging, and the following year I deconverted, walking away from Evangelical Christianity after fifty years.

Joel seems to think I should have stopped talking about Jesus after I left Christianity; that since I am no longer a Christian, I have nothing meaningful to say about the faith once delivered to the saints. Let’s suppose I spent my life as a career military officer. General Bruce, I like the ring of that. After a long career in the Army, I retired. Would anyone expect me not to talk about the military or my service any more? Would I be expected to “move on”? Of course not.

So it is with me. Christianity made a deep, lasting impression on me, especially Evangelicalism and the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church movement. It is what I know. I can’t excise the first fifty years of my life. Sorry, but that’s not how life works.

What I have to share is a lived life, and I suspect that’s what upsets Evangelicals so much. I lived, practiced and believed the teachings of the Bible — fallibly, yet sincerely. There was nothing in my life that suggested I was anything but a committed follower of Jesus. Yet, I did insult to the spirit of grace and trampled under my feet the blood of the covenant. I spit in the face of Jesus, rejecting his atoning work on the cross.

It is this rejection of faith many Evangelicals can’t or won’t understand. How dare I reject he who has made such differences in their lives. How dare I reject that which they devote their lives to. How dare I live without being constrained by the teachings of the Bible. And it is my defiance that pisses off so many Evangelicals, so much so that they turn to violence and character assassination. Just today, a local Evangelical man named Daniel Gray wrote a letter to the editor of the Defiance Crescent-News, saying that I never was a pastor; that he can’t find anyone who says I was a pastor anywhere. (I pastored three local churches in Montpelier, Fayette, and West Unity, respectively.) This, of course, is an unadulterated lie. This same man said several years ago that that I was being investigated by the State of Ohio for performing “illegal” weddings. This, too, was an ugly lie.

Rare is the Evangelical that can accept me on my own terms. Because they can’t make my story fit in their peculiar religious box, they reject what I say out of hand. Yet, millions of readers over the past twenty years have thought differently. They value my writing, though in dark, depressed moments I wonder why. They find encouragement and help from my words, even though they don’t always agree with me. More than a few people thank me for being instrumental in their deconversions.

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And this upsets many Evangelicals. Not only did I deconvert, I am leading other people down a path that leads to Hell. Why can’t I just mind my own business, and move on? Of course, lost on these folks is the fact that they, themselves, do not mind their own business. They routinely evangelize and proselytize, whether non-Christians want to hear it or not. Believing they have a mandate from God, Evangelicals fan out across the Internet, putting a word in for Jesus (or Trump) everywhere they go.

And that’s fine. You know, that First Amendment thing. Evangelicals are free to witness and preach, both privately and publicly. Why should it not be the same for non-Christians, especially atheists?

Joel has been reading my blog for some time, yet he fails to understand why I do what I do. That’s not my fault. My motivations are clear to anyone who is paying attention.

Evangelicalism is not neutral. As one of the largest sects in the United States , Evangelicalism has a lot of influence on our culture. None of us can escape this influence. Our current president, arguably the worst ever, was put into office by Evangelical voters. Evangelicals now hold some of the highest, most important political offices in the land. And what are they doing with this power? They are using it to take back America for God. They are using it to enshrine Christianity as the state’s official religion. Worse, they are the people primarily behind Project 2025.

And dare we ignore who has been behind the raging culture wars for the past forty-plus years? Evangelical Christians. As as father of six children and grandfather to sixteen grandchildren, do I not have a vested interest in their future, especially when I see the United States running headlong into fascism, Christian Nationalism, and an Evangelical form of theocracy? Silence is not an option for me, nor is it for many of the people who read this blog.

So, to Joel’s false claim that I have never left Jesus, with a British accent I say, poppycock. There can be no question, except for the deliberately blind, that I am no longer a Christian; that the reason I continue to share my story and critique Evangelical Christianity is because it is a threat to social progress and the future of the United States.

I intend to “stay on the topic of God/Jesus” for as long as Evangelicals drag the dead carcass of Jesus into the public square, touting him as some sort of panacea for the ills of society. I intend to stay the course as long as Evangelicals publicly promote irrational beliefs, especially when demanding everyone believe as they do under threat of eternal fire and brimstone.

When the Joels of the world retire to their houses of worship to incessantly talk about God/Jesus/Bible/Sin/Salvation, I will shutter this blog. Until then, I intend to speak my mind, as is the right of every American—though fascist Donald Trump, with Evangelical approval, is trying to limit the free speech of those who disagree with him.

This is a battle of worldviews; a battle for the soul of our country. As long as Evangelicals demand Christianity be the state’s religion and the Bible the law of the land, they should expect pushback from me.

Unless Joel and his merry band of Evangelicals intends to cede the battlefield, I intend to stand my ground—even when I can no longer physically stand.

Bruce Gerencser, 69, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 48 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.

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16 responses to “Questions: Bruce, It Seems Like You Never Really Left Jesus”

  1. Evangelicals and Fundamentalists—ones like “Joel,” anyway—are absolutely certain that anyone who isn’t a Christian, according to their terms, has nothing valid, and no right, to say anything about what they believe. Or, perhaps, they simply feel threatened: If someone who dedicated his life to God/Jesjs/the Bible as you did could become an atheist, perhaps their beliefs and lives don’t have as firm a foundation as they had believed.

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      Sadly, MJ, I think you may be right. And I don’t get it. I am just one man with a story to tell. Sure, my story is unique in the sense that rarely does a preacher my age publicly deconvert.

      There are lots of unbelieving or doubting older pastors, but out of fear of economic loss or losing a lifetime of social connections, they fake it until they make it; make it being retirement or finding a job to support themselves.

      Most churches don’t have an honorable, thoughtful, kind plan for pastors who no longer believe. I guarantee you this: publicly admit you are now an unbeliever and you will quickly be shown the door.

      Worse, many pastors live in church provided housing. Overnight, they become homeless. I had church I resigned from demand I immediately remove our mobile home from their property. They even demanded I remove the water softener they paid for and had installed because the war was shitty. They got what they wished for. I personally uninstalled the softener and set it on the berm of the country road we lived on. 🤣 Yeah, I know, petty, but, damn, it sure felt good. 🤣

      People change their minds, and I changed mine. Evidently, Evangelicalism is akin to Hotel California. Once you enter, you can never leave. God may be an abusive, neglectful spouse, but you can never, ever divorce him. So silly, in my humble opinion. 🤣

      1. BJW

        It is scary how abusive their God is, very scary. And that is what they want, us to be scared and pliant. My husband would laugh himself to death thinking of me being pliant!

  2. Douglas Pearce

    Hi, Bruce.
    Is this Joel the same Joel who hosts the blog Resurrecting Orthodoxy?

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      It is not. As far as I know, Joel doesn’t have a blog (or he doesn’t list it).❤️

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    Jeff M.

    Excellent rebuttal to this Christian fascist. I despise them and everything they stand for. They are a direct threat to our Constitutional Republic.

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    To Joel’s question I might ask in response: Why not?

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    Joel Labonte

    Well, gosh, hehe!! I just saw this blog only now. Im sorry, I had to chuckle! I didn’t mean it as an accusation, it was actually more of a compliment, to be honest. And, just genuine curiosity.

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    It makes complete sense that you would talk about something that was integral to your life for 50 years. That’s not unusual at all. Plus, it was literally your area of expertise! To refrain from discussing it would be weird.

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    Joel Labonte

    Terrible about pastors who quit becoming homeless and ignored by former ” family”.
    That’s unfair to someone who put so much time serving ( often very selflessly) and then kicking them when they’re down or just looking at a different path. Wheres yhe gratitude in that? They should still be honored. That’s not even what Bible says how to treat a brother.

    1. BJW

      They just excuse themselves because Bruce is “other,” an evil commie socialist leftist atheist…would they even dignify Bruce by calling him a person? They hate everyone who isn’t like them, and they will be happy when they subdue or get rid of us…yes, some of them would happily kill us “others.”

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    Joel Labonte

    Well, thats just sad. Bible says to love your enemies. But going down a different path doesn’t necessarily even make someone an enemy. More caring, less judging. That’s what Jesus would do. And He would look at the why behind the what.

  9. this doesn’t have anything to do with questions, but… if you ACTUALLY have a psychedelic-coloured suit like the one in the second picture, i am INTENSELY jealous, and want one of my own! 😉

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    LD

    With something you mentioned here.

    Questions
    Are you still able to officiate a wedding?

    And preach a funeral?

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    Jackie Malone

    Keep up the fight, Bruce! Fundamentalist Evangelical Christianity is toxic and dehumanising.
    I shall never return to the Baptist teachings of my childhood.
    Total propaganda, yet not recognised as such!
    All the best. Hope you find some pain relief for your medical conditions.

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    GeoffT

    I wonder if Jesus were portrayed in some other way than the clean cut, handsome, nicely trimmed beard, white man that evangelicals see him whether things would be different? Yes, there are many other representations, including black, but they don’t get commonly accepted. The reality is, assuming he actually existed, he would have been dark skinned, dirty and dishevelled, unkempt facial hair, with bad teeth.

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