Tag: Heaven

  • Fox’s ‘Lucifer’ — Hated by Evangelicals, Loved by Heathens

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    Chloe Decker and Lucifer Morningstar

    Fox’s hit show Lucifer began its second season this week, wasting no time as Lucifer Morningstar and others continue to mock all that Christians hold dear. Last season ended with Lucifer’s mother escaping hell. The latest episode finds Lucifer, played by Tom Ellis, explaining to his therapist (played by Rachael Harris) his Dad (God) and Mom’s relationship:

    Lucifer: Very well. In human terms, once upon a time, a boy met a girl, and they fell in love. They had sex. The only trouble was, they were celestial beings, so that moment created the universe.

    Linda: MM, the Big Bang?

    Lucifer: Never knew how appropriate the name was until now, did you? Anyway, they became Mum and Dad. They had a whole litter of kids, including yours truly. And they built a house. They called it Heaven. They were happy. Dad was… Well, Dad, and Mum… Well, Mum was rather lovely in the beginning. But things change, don’t they? Dad started going into the garage and tinkering with a little project he called humanity. Mum grew cold… Distant. And pretty soon, they were both neglecting their family.

    Linda: And then one of his children started to act out?

    Lucifer: Indeed. Yeah… So Dad got pissed off and tossed me out of the house.

    Linda: And what did your mother do?

    Lucifer: Nothing. She just stood there and let it happen. Anyway, a couple of thousand years later, Dad kicked her out, too. Cast her into Hell and put her in a cell. So, I did the same for her as she did for me. Zilch.

    This season introduces to viewers a new character — a forensic scientist named Ella Lopez (Aimee Garcia).  Lopez, a crucifix-wearing Christian, thinks that the Lucifer in the Bible got a bad rap:

    Ella: You must be Detective Decker’s civilian consultant.

    Lucifer: Lucifer Morningstar.

    Ella: Cool.

    Lucifer: I was expecting a different reaction considering your choice of bling.

    Ella: Oh. Dude, I had a friend named Adolf. Okay, Adolf. I didn’t hold it against him. And besides, I think the Devil gets a bad rap.

    Lucifer: Oh. You do, do you?

    Ella: Sure. I mean, what did he really do that was so bad? What, rebel against his dad? Ask some naked lady if she wanted an apple?

    Lucifer: Be still my heart. Do go on.

    Ella: I suppose he does run Hell. That’s not so great, you know, with the torture and eternal damnation.

    Lucifer: I’m retired. And besides, I didn’t create Hell. I just worked there.

    Ella: And now you’re talking in the first person. Wait. Are you…

    Lucifer: The Devil?

    Ella: …A method actor?

    Lucifer: What?

    Later in the episode, Lopez answers Detective Chloe Decker’s (played by Lauren German) questions about God, angels, the Devil,and the afterlife:

    Chloe: Do you believe that it all really exists?

    Ella: What do you mean?

    Chloe: Say, angels. Or the Devil. That sort of thing. That’s all a metaphor, right?

    Ella: Maybe. Maybe not.

    Chloe: Oh, okay. That’s pretty…I just thought there would be more faith in your faith, I guess.

    Ella: Oh. No, see, my aunt was a nun, okay? And she always taught me that doubt was really important. Right? I mean, if you don’t question something, then what’s the point of believing it? I doubt so that I can believe.

    Chloe: So, then, if you had the chance to prove it was all real or fake, would you do it?

    Ella: I mean, that kind of defeats the point, don’t you think? It’s faith…

    I wish more Christians would take Decker’s approach. Hebrews 11:1-6 states:

    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Christian apologists spend countless hours scoring the Internet looking for opportunities to rationally defend their faith. As science continues to make belief systems such as Christianity largely irrelevant, zealots fight back with worn-out, stale, irrational arguments for the veracity of their beliefs. Have they not read Hebrews 11? The essence of Christian belief is FAITH. Attempting to “prove” Christianity to people such as myself is a waste of time. I am unwilling to surrender reason to faith; unwilling to just believe. Either someone believes, or they don’t. I don’t, and Lucifer Morningstar’s tale of heaven and hell is every bit as “real” to me as that which is found in the Bible. It’s all entertainment, and these days I think Fox’s ‘Lucifer’ is far more entertaining.

  • Sacrilegious Humor: If Atheists Went to Heaven by Dark Matter

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    Comic by Mark Lynch

    This is the forty-third installment in the Sacrilegious Humor series. This is a series that I would like readers to help me with. If you know of a comedy bit that is irreverent towards religion, makes fun of religion, pokes fun at sincerely held religious beliefs, or challenges the firmly held religious beliefs of others, please email me the name of the bit or a link to it.

    Today’s bit is a video titled If Atheists Went to Heaven.

    Warning, many of the comedy bits in this series will contain profanity. You have been warned.

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  • The Sounds of Fundamentalism: The Burning Hell by Estus Pirkle and Ron Ormond

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    This is the one hundred and seventh installment in The Sounds of Fundamentalism series. This is a series that I would like readers to help me with. If you know of a video clip that shows the crazy, cantankerous, or contradictory side of Evangelical Christianity, please send me an email with the name or link to the video. Please do not leave suggestions in the comment section.  Let’s have some fun!

    Today’s Sound of Fundamentalism is the movie The Burning Hell, produced by Fundamentalist Baptist pastor Estus Pirkle and Ron Ormond.  Released in 1974, The Burning Hell was used by thousands of Fundamentalist churches to “scare” sinners into getting saved. I first saw The Burning Hell in 1974. I saw it several more times in the late 1970s and 1980s.   According to the Estus Pirkle Evangelistic Association website, The Burning Hell:

    is a scriptural interpretation of what the Bible has to say about a literal hell. The film seeks to portray in graphic terms all of the horror of hell and how to escape its flames. Of central importance in the film is the incident involving the rich man and Lazarus. Millions of people have been saved in Spanish and English speaking countries through this film. The film is sixty minutes and in color. Preaching is by Estus W. Pirkle.

    The movie is available on DVD for $29.95, plus $6 for shipping.

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  • Songs of Sacrilege: From God’s Perspective by Bo Burnham

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    This is the one hundred and thirty-fifth installment in the Songs of Sacrilege series. This is a series that I would like readers to help me with. If you know of a song that is irreverent towards religion, makes fun of religion, pokes fun at sincerely held religious beliefs, or challenges the firmly held religious beliefs of others, please send me an email.

    Today’s Song of Sacrilege is From God’s Perspective by Bo Burnham.

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    [Bo Burnham]
    Um…there’s things I don’t want to be miss construed my act I feel off and on. I don’t wish you leave in my shell, thinking that I think I know better than people, or that I think I am better then people in general. Okay, I will put it up there. This is a song from the perspective of God

    [Verse 1]
    The books you think I wrote are way too thick
    Who needs a thousand metaphors to figure out you shouldn’t be a dick
    And I don’t watch you when you sleep
    Surprisingly I don’t use my omnipotence to be a fucking creep
    [Hook 1]
    You’re not going to heaven
    Why the fuck did you think I’d ever kick it with you
    None of you are going to heaven
    There’s a trillion aliens cooler than you

    [Bridge 1]
    You shouldn’t abstain from rape just because you think that I want you to
    You shouldn’t rape because rape is a fucked up thing to do
    (It’s pretty obvious just don’t fucking rape people
    I didn’t think I had to write that one down for you.)

    [Verse 2]
    I don’t think masturbation is obscene
    It’s absolutely natural and the weirdest fucking thing I’ve ever seen
    You make my job a living hell
    I sent gays to fix overpopulation
    Boy, did that go well

    [Hook 2]
    You’re not going to heaven
    Eat a thousand crackers, sing a million hymns
    None of you are going to heaven
    You’re not my children, you’re a bad game of Sims

    [Bridge 2]
    You shouldn’t abstain from pork just cause you think that I want you to
    You can eat pork, because why the fuck would I give a shit?
    (I created the universe you think I’m drawing the line at the fucking deli aisle?)

    [Verse 3]
    You argue and you bicker and you fight
    Atheists and Catholics
    Jews and Hindus argue day and night
    Over what they think is true
    But no one entertains the thought
    That maybe God does not believe in you

    [Hook 3]
    You pray so badly for heaven
    Knowing any day might be the day that you die
    But maybe life on earth could be heaven
    Doesn’t just the thought of it make it worth the try?

    [Bridge 4]
    My love’s the type of thing that you have to earn
    And when you earn it you won’t need it
    My love’s the type of thing that you have to earn
    And when you earn it you won’t need it

    I’m not going to give you love just cause I know that you want me to
    If you want love then the love is gonna come from you
    Thank you very much

  • Songs of Sacrilege: Heaven by Talking Heads

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    This is the one hundred and thirty-fourth installment in the Songs of Sacrilege series. This is a series that I would like readers to help me with. If you know of a song that is irreverent towards religion, makes fun of religion, pokes fun at sincerely held religious beliefs, or challenges the firmly held religious beliefs of others, please send me an email.

    Today’s Song of Sacrilege is Heaven by Talking Heads.

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    Everyone is trying
    To get to the bar
    The name of the bar
    The bar is called heaven

    The band in heaven
    They play my favourite song
    Play it one more time
    Play it all night long

    [Chorus]
    Heaven, heaven is a place
    A place where nothing
    Nothing ever happens
    Heaven, heaven is a place
    A place where nothing
    Nothing ever happens

    There is a party
    Everyone is there
    Everyone will leave
    At exactly the same time

    When this party’s over
    It will start again
    It will not be any different
    It will be exactly the same

    [Chorus]

    When this kiss is over
    It will start again
    It will not be any different
    It will be exactly the same

    It’s hard to imagine
    That nothing at all
    Could be so exciting
    Could be this much fun

  • Songs of Sacrilege: In the Beginning by Todd Snider

    This is the one hundred and sixteenth installment in the Songs of Sacrilege series. This is a series that I would like readers to help me with. If you know of a song that is irreverent towards religion, makes fun of religion, pokes fun at sincerely held religious beliefs, or challenges the firmly held religious beliefs of others, please send me an email.

    Today’s Song of Sacrilege is In the Beginning by Todd Snider.

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    In the beginning, man wondered to himself:
    Why, oh why are we here?
    And yet, with each asking of this question
    the answer would become even less clear
    Overwhelmed by fear, distraction took its place
    And so it was, in the world’s first shelter
    That we began the human race
    The human race to fill up more and more empty space
    Oh, how we loved, the human race

    Until one day this one guy said to this other guy, he said:
    Hey, have you seen that guy over there?
    He’s got more than everybody else has got
    To me, that don’t seem fair
    Well, the second guy agreed with the first guy
    Everybody else did too
    Til they all got so worked up, they figured
    there was something they just had to do:
    Divide his things up among each other
    After they killed him of course
    They could see no real good reason not to just
    Take what they wanted by force
    When they found him he said:
    Hey, wait a minute fellas, I wouldn’t kill me just now
    You can see that I’ve got more than any of you
    Have ever got, wouldn’t you first at least like to know how?
    And with that, he had their attention
    And with that, he went on loud and clear, he said:
    You all know how long we’ve all wondered
    Why, oh why are we here?
    Well today I’m gonna tell ya all about it
    I’m gonna teach ya about sufferin’ and bliss
    I’m gonna teach y’all a little bout Heaven and Hell
    And the God that gave me all this
    God gave me this because I’m humble
    And he can do the same for you too
    But if you’re seekin’ his love and affection
    What you’re doin’ is the last thing I’d do
    He sends killers to hellfire, both here and eternally
    The good live forever in a place called Heaven
    God told me this personally

    Who you gonna trust if you can’t trust me?

    So unless you want suffering and heartache
    Unless you want trouble and fear
    You better find some kinda way to humble yourself
    May I suggest helpin’ me clean up around here?
    ‘Course I could pay ya a little bit a money
    But more importantly God would see
    And if He sees you workin’ humbly
    Some day he may give you what he’s given me

    Well the crowd just didn’t know what to do with that
    Nor could they prove what he said wasn’t true
    And since he had what everyone else thought they wanted
    It seemed like the thing to do
    And with that we rolled into the future
    And ain’t it a son of a bitch
    To think that we would still need religion
    To keep the poor from killin’ the rich?

    Who are you gonna trust if you don’t trust me?

  • Facing Life and Death Without God

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    Christianity offers its followers the promise of life after death. No matter how difficult and painful this life is, Christians are promised wonderful lives after death living with Jesus and their fellow Christians in a perfect, pain-free heaven. While I wonder how heavenly it is to spend your life prostrate before God worshiping him, Christians live in the hope that someday they will take possession of a room in the Father’s house, built especially just for them. (John 14) Without the promise of life after death in heaven, I wonder if most Christians would still be willing to forgo the pleasures of this life? While some Christians would argue that living according to the laws, teachings, and precepts of the Bible is still a good way to live, I suspect most Christians — without the promise of eternal life and bliss — would quickly abandon their houses of worship, joining people such as myself at the local pub or the church of the NFL. After all, even the apostle Paul said, If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. (1 Corinthians 15:19) Evidently, Paul thought that in this life only Christianity had little to offer. And so Sunday after Sunday, Christian preachers promise parishioners a home awaits them in heaven. According to the Bible, God promises some day to give Christians the desires of their hearts. Wait. Does that mean there will be booze, porn, cigars, dirt track racing, and hunting in heaven? Will heavenly citizens spend their days playing Nintendo or Xbox games? Will God really give Christians the desires of their hearts? Hmm, this got me thinking about the whole going-to-heaven thing. I know a con job when I hear it. What better way to get people to buy what you are selling than to promise them that they will have a wonderful life if they will just sign on the dotted line. A wonderful life, that is, someday, after you have made the 666 monthly payments and died.

    Atheism offers no such promises. Atheism is rooted in a humanistic and secularist view of the world. No promises of a divine life in the sweet by and by. Life is hard, and then you die. No promises of blessings in this life or the life to come. Some have argued that atheists have a cold, sterile outlook on life. To some degree this is true. Atheists are realists, knowing they only get one shot at life— best get to living it. Life is what we make it, and even when hard times come (and they will most certainly come), atheists find a way to make the most of it. I could spend my days whining and complaining about my health problems, but what good would that do? Instead, I turn my pain and suffering into a platform for helping others. I can look at the five decades I spent in the Christian church and say, what a waste, but I choose to use these experiences as an opportunity to help others. I know that this is the only life I have, and it is up to me to make the most of it. Spending time wondering about what might have been accomplishes nothing. As my family has heard me say many times, it is what it is. Sure, if there were some magical way to redo certain things from my past I might do it. But maybe not. Polly and I will celebrate our 38th wedding anniversary this July. We met at a Fundamentalist Bible college. If nothing else good came out of our past, both of us would say — on most days — that our relationship was the best thing about our years in Evangelicalism. I would not want anyone to follow the same path we did, yet we do have six wonderful children and 11 awesome grandchildren. They indeed are the bright spots of the years we spent working in God’s coal mine. I have learned, or perhaps I am learning, to reflect on the good of the past, and use the bad things to fuel my writing and my attempts to help others avoid similar paths.

    I will celebrate my 59th birthday in June. I have lived 12 years longer than my mother and five years longer than my dad. There are days when my body is so overwhelmed with pain that I wonder if I can live another day. The means of my demise are always nearby, yet despite my suffering I choose to live. Why? Because this is the only life I will ever have. I only have one opportunity to love Polly, Jason, Nathan, Jaime, Bethany, Laura, Josiah, my grandchildren, my brother and sister, and Polly’s mom and dad. I know that when I draw my last breath, there will be no family circle meeting in the sky — sorry Johnny! This is why I want to live each and every day to its fullest. This is not a cliché to me. This life matters. My wife, children, grandchildren, son-in-law, daughters-in-law, siblings, extended family, and friends matter to me. I know that I am only going to see them and enjoy their company in this life. There are places I want to go to and see. I want to enjoy and experience the fullness of what it means to be human. And since casting off the shackles of religion, I have been free to drink deeply of the human experience. No longer fearful of God’s judgment or hell, I am free to see, touch, taste, and hear the things I desire. Yes, there is that dirty word that dare not be spoken in Evangelical churches — desire. I spent way too many years denying passions, desires, wants, and needs, all for the sake of God, Jesus, the church, and the ministry. No more. It is wonderful to do something just because I want to. I do not have to pray about it or see if the Bible approves of it. Bruce approves, end of discussion.

    When I write posts such as this, there are always a few horse-bridled Christians who let me know that there is coming a day when I will regret not bowing to the will of the S&M master, Jesus. Someday Bruce, Evangelical zealots tell me, God is going to make you pay for your attacks on Christianity. Someday, God is going to judge you for your wanton living and rejection of the Bible. Sometimes, I think Christians such as these people relish the day when God is going to give atheist Bruce Gerencser an eternal ass-whipping. I am sure they will be standing among the crowd cheering and saying to God, hit him again! He deserves it, Lord.

    I have been blogging now for going on nine years. I left Christianity in 2008, and since then countless Evangelicals — along with a few Catholics — have attempted to win me back to Jesus through the use of Pascal’s Wager. The basic premise is this, Bruce, what if you are wrong? Good question. Since I am not infallible, nor do I have at my disposal the sum of all human knowledge and experience, all I can do is make reasoned, knowledgeable decisions based on the evidence at hand. I can tell readers this much: I have been wrong many, many times. Not only that, I have made enough mistakes that if you piled them up they would reach to the International Space Station. I am, after all, a feeble, frail, and at times contradictory, human being. I can, like all people, be led astray by my passions, judgments, or incomplete information. I am not immune to irrationality and cognitive dissonance. However, when it comes to Christianity and its promises of eternal life in heaven or judgment in hell, it is my educated opinion that the claims of Christianity are false. Trying to get me to choose Jesus just in case I am wrong makes a mockery of intellectual inquiry (and Christianity). Having spent most of my adult life in the Christian church and 25 years studying and preaching the Bible, I think it is safe to say that I know a good bit about Christianity. I cannot remember the last time that some Christian presented me with something I have not heard before. I am not being arrogant here — as I am sure some Christians will allege. I spent decades reading and studying the Bible — devouring countless Christian books. I immersed myself in Christianity and its teachings, so when I say I am no longer a Christian because I think the claims of Christianity and the Bible are false, my conclusions — unlike many Christian opinions of atheism — come from an educated, reasoned, well-thought-out position. Do I know everything there is to know about Christianity? Of course not, but I sure as hell know more than most the Christians (and preachers) I come in contact with on a day-to-day basis. My point is this: I am an atheist today, not out of ignorance, but because I weighed Christianity in the balance and found it wanting.

    If Christians come up with new evidences for the veracity of their claims — and I doubt they ever will —  then I will gladly consider them. Until then, I am content to number myself among the godless. And when I die, I hope to leave this life knowing that I did what I could to be a help to others. I hope, on the day that my ashes are scattered along the shores of Lake Michigan, that my family and friends will speak well of me. I hope that none of them will have to lie, but that they will truly believe that my good works outweigh the bad. This is why I think that is important to finish well. I am sure Polly and my children have less-than-complimentary stories they could tell at my wake, but I hope, because I have made a concerted effort to be a better man, that they will share stories about a good man who just so happened to be an atheist.

    I am often asked if I fear death. Yes and no. Since no one has died and come back to life — including Jesus — I do fear the blackness that awaits. There are been those times, late at night, when I have pondered being alive one moment and dead the next; going to sleep and never waking up. But this fear does not overwhelm me. I know that I cannot do anything about dying. It is, to quote the Lion King, the circle of life. We are born, we live, we die. End of story. All I know to do is to live a good life and be a good husband, father, grandfather, friend, and fellow citizen of earth. I have had the privilege of living at this time on humanity’s calendar, and when it comes time for me to draw my last breath, I hope my dying thoughts will be those of love. Love of family, love of friends, love of writing, love of photography, and love of all those who have made my life worth living. Will that not be what all of us desire? To love and to be loved? As dying pushes away all the minutia of life, what remains is love. For me, that will be enough.

  • Telling Non-Christian Mother That Dead Child is in Heaven is Not Helpful

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    Excerpt from Alternet article by Priscilla Blossom titled My Child Is Not in Heaven: Your Religion Only Makes My Grief Harder:

    When I tell people about the death of my infant daughter, they often respond that she is in heaven. They tell me that she is an angel now. They tell me that she’s with God. But as an atheist, these words have never brought me any comfort.

    My daughter was born three years ago. I went into pre-term labor at 22 weeks gestation, and try as they might, the doctors could not keep her here with us. Her short life, just eight hours long, has marked my life and my husband’s life deeply. Margaret Hope (or Maggie, as we refer to her) continues to exist with us in her own way, but this persistence has absolutely nothing to do with god or Jesus or angels or any other specific afterworld. This is what works for us as parents. It’s what works for about two percent of the U.S. population who currently identify as atheists, and for about 20 percent who are agnostic or unaffiliated with any particular set of beliefs.

    Being an atheist in a believer’s world can be difficult at times, especially when some of the more fervently religious are close family or friends. It’s even more daunting when faced with grief and death. Christians believe that when we die, we either go to heaven or hell. Many, of course, believe babies go to heaven because they are, well, babies. When our daughter died, my husband requested to have our baby baptized, fearing in some way for her soul, a remnant of his Catholic upbringing. There was no time for a traditional baptism while she was alive but her NICU doctor performed the rite for her while we held her in our arms for the first time, our tiny, frail, lifeless daughter whose eyes never even got a chance to see. It felt bizarre to me, but I allowed it because my husband was suffering and it seemed to bring him some comfort. Later, as reality hit harder, he would lose all faith as I had done…

    …Those around us did their best to offer words of comfort, but after a while, I became tired and even resentful of the comments about my daughter needing to go be with Jesus. Worse still, I isolated myself so I wouldn’t need to hear their “comforting” words because all they did was make me feel worse. Like so many other non-believers, I cannot wrap my head around the idea that there is some supreme being that allows these sorts of things to happen, commands them to happen. Being a bereaved parent is hard enough, but being one when you don’t believe in god is something else altogether…

    …Agnostics and atheists understand why people have faith. We understand it brings them comfort. At times, I wish I could believe that my daughter is watching over me right now while enjoying a beautiful and eternal afterlife. But that’s just not what I believe. Instead, I imagine her in all sorts of places. Maybe her energy shot out into the stars. Perhaps some molecule of her is dancing around on Jupiter. Other times, I think about much of her remaining in my heart, as science tells us part of every child’s DNA remains forever with her mother, a fact that does bring me great peace.

    Maggie’s physical remains are in a plastic, white box, swaddled in her hospital baby blanket, and placed inside my bedroom closet, still waiting for the day I am willing to part with them. I really don’t know what happened to her soul, if such things even exist. And while it may comfort you to say to me that my daughter is in heaven, it does absolutely nothing for me or for the countless others who don’t subscribe to your brand of faith — and that is okay.

    You can read the entire article here. Priscilla Blossom’s blog can be found here.

     

  • Songs of Sacrilege: Spirit in the Sky by Gareth Gates

    This is the thirty-ninth installment in the Songs of Sacrilege series. This is a series that I would like readers to help me with. If you know of a song that is irreverent towards religion, makes fun of religion, pokes fun at sincerely held religious beliefs, or challenges the firmly held religious beliefs of others, please send me an email.

    Today’s Song of Sacrilege is Spirit in the Sky by Gareth Gates, an English singer-songwriter.

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    When I die and they lay me to rest
    Gonna go to the place that’s the best
    When I lay me down to die
    Goin’ up to the spirit in the sky
    Goin’ up to the spirit in the sky
    That’s where I’m gonna go when I die
    When I die and they lay me to rest
    I’m gonna go to the place that’s the best.

    Prepare yourself you know it’s a must
    Gotta have a friend in Jesus
    So you know that when you die
    He’s gonna recommend you
    To the spirit in the sky
    Goin’ up to the spirit in the sky
    That’s where I’m gonna go when I die
    When I die and they lay me to rest
    I’m gonna go to the place that’s the best.

    Never been a sinner I never sinned
    I got a friend in Jesus
    So you know that when I die
    He’s gonna set me up with
    The spirit in the sky
    Oh set me up with the spirit in the sky
    That’s where I’m gonna go when I die
    When I die and they lay me to rest
    I’m gonna go to the place that’s the best
    Oh

    Set me up to the Spirit in the Sky
    That’s where I’m gonna go when I die
    When I die and they lay me to rest
    I’m gonna go to the place that’s the best
    Goin’ on up to the Spirit in the Sky
    That’s where I’m gonna go when I die
    When I die and they lay me to rest
    I’m gonna go to the place that’s the best
    Go to the place that’s the best
    Go to the place that’s the best
    Go to the place that’s the best.

  • Dear Evangelical: Tell Me the Truth, Am I Headed for Hell?

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    Bruce: Five years ago, 152 Pakistanis were killed in a plane crash.

    Evangelical: I hope they all knew the Lord.

    Bruce: Why does that matter?

    Evangelical: Well, if they didn’t know the Lord they probably went to hell.

    Bruce: Probably?

    Evangelical: Well…some of them might have trusted Jesus just before they died. I don’t know their hearts. God is the judge.

    Bruce: It is likely the plane passengers were Muslim. Most likely the last word on their lips was ALLAH. Do Muslims go to heaven when they die?

    Evangelical: Only if they believe in Jesus.

    Bruce: Muslims do not believe Jesus is the way, truth and life.They do not believe salvation is found in Jesus Christ. So, did the Muslim plane passengers go to hell when they died?

    Evangelical: I am not their judge. It’s between them and God.

    A lot of Evangelicals are increasingly uncomfortable with what the Bible says about hell. According to inspired, inerrant Word of God,  all non-Christians go to hell when they die. They will be tormented day and night for eternity. All Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics, and atheists will burn forever because of their rejection of Jesus Christ. Many Evangelicals even add Catholics, liberal Protestants, and universalists to the thou shalt burn list.

    Let me remind readers what the Bible says about hell (collated from several Christian websites):

    • A place of weeping and gnashing of teeth – “And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 25:30).
    • A place of darkness – “Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 22:13).
    • A place of torment – “And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom” (Luke 16:23).
    • A place of sorrow – “The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;” (2 Samuel 22:6).
    • A place of everlasting destruction – “Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” (II Thessalonians 1:9).
    • A place where humans are tormented with fire and brimstone – “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8).
    • A place where fire is not quenched – “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44).
    • A bottomless pit – “And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit” (Revelation 9:2).
    • A place of no rest – “And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name” (Revelation 14:11).
    • A lake of fire – “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death” (Revelation 20:14).
    • A place of hopeless of unsatisfied desires – “And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame ” (Luke 16:24). The rich man wanted water but could not get any.

    The Bible, as interpreted through the lens of Evangelicalism, is very clear on the matter of hell and why people end up there after they die. Even those who have never heard about Jesus Christ will burn in hell forever. It’s their fault for not knowing, even though no one ever told them about Jesus.  According to the Calvinist, before God created the first human he decided where each of us would bunk when we die. The elect go to heaven, the non-elect go to hell.

    According to the Evangelical score card, the overwhelming majority of people, past, present, and future, end up in hell when they die. This is God’s righteous judgment of those who did not repent of their sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Wait a minute, what about the people who lived before the birth of Christ?  Where did they go when they died? Let the explaining and theological gymnastics begin.

    Yet, when it comes right down to it, when confronted face to face with someone such as I — a person who once professed Christ, who once preached the gospel of Christ — many Evangelicals have a hard time telling me I’m headed for hell. They convince themselves that I am just confused or backslidden. They are certain the Holy Spirit will straighten me out and in no time I will be back preaching at First Baptist Church of Somewhere.

    For some people, particularly those who are Christian friends or former parishioners, the notion of Bruce Gerencser going to hell is quite preposterous. A few of my friends have told me they find my defection from Christianity quite unsettling. If I can fall away then anyone can fall away. If I am headed for hell, will they be next?

    I’ve attended many funerals over the years. I have only been to one funeral where the preacher had guts enough to say that the deceased went to hell. In every other instance some anecdotal story was told to give the living the impression that the deceased was now in heaven with all his dead loved ones (please read Dear Pastor, Do You Believe in Hell?). No matter how vile or evil the person was, he went to heaven when he died. People can live most of their lives as  atheists, but because they asked Jesus into their heart as a child, they go to heaven when they die. What a sweet deal, right?

    Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God? Do you believe it is truth? Do you believe that salvation is found only in Jesus Christ? Do you believe Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life?  If so, it’s time for you to be honest about what you believe. It’s time to speak the truth. It’s time to own what the Bible says.

    If what the Bible says about salvation, heaven, and hell is true, then these claims are also true:

    • All Muslims are headed for hell
    • All Buddhists are headed for hell
    • All agnostics are headed for hell
    • All atheists are headed for hell
    • All who have not trusted Jesus Christ as their personal savior are headed for hell
    • All who reject the truth claims of the Bible are headed for hell
    • All Catholics are headed for hell
    • All liberal Protestants are headed for hell
    • All universalists are headed for hell
    • All homosexuals are headed for hell
    • Bruce, YOU are headed for hell

    If you are not willing to consign to hell most of the billions of people who have lived on this earth, then it is time for you to stop saying you believe the Bible is truth; that you believe that Jesus is the only way of salvation. Just remember, once you admit that you only really believe certain parts of the Bible, you have started down a slippery slope that could lead you to where I am today. Then you too will be headed for hell, just like me.

    I write this post as a challenge to my Christian readers, friends, and former parishioners. What do you really believe? Do you really think I’m headed for hell? Do you really believe God will fit me with a special fireproof body so he can torture me for eternity? Don’t try to evade the question by saying things like, I don’t know your heart or only God knows for sure. If one can know from the Bible what salvation is, then certainly it seems people should be able to know if they don’t have it. And if they don’t have salvation, they are certainly going to hell.

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