According to Fake Dr. David Tee, whose real name is Derrick Thomas Thiessen, I don’t have permission to criticize, mock, or make fun of Christians. Thiessen has his thong tightly wedged up his tight ass over my Songs of Sacrilege Series. Evidently, I need to have permission to criticize, mock, or make fun of Christianity. Permission from who, you ask? Thiessen doesn’t say. Thiessen should check out the Sounds of Fundamentalism and Sacrilegious Humor series’ too. Barrels of laughs abound.
Just when you think BG [Bruce Gerencser] could not go any lower, he surprises everyone and does it. Nothing is gained by mocking others and Christians should not do it to anyone. They need to remember how they felt when Jesus was mocked when he was being crucified.
Why make fun of something people believe in?
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BG does not like getting mocked, analyzed, shown to be in error, and so on. We know this from the myriad of articles he writes whining and crying that someone challenged his point of view.
Yet here he is throwing the first stone at those who believe in the Jesus he quit on and left. That is not right in any belief or non-belief system. As we have noted in many of our articles, it is tough to live the Christian life.
The people who stick to their faith should be praised not vilified or made targets. Just because a person like BG does not believe, that does not give him permission to demean and insult those who do. Nor does it grant him permission to insult or criticize their religious faith.
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We do feel sad for them as they are deceived and in need of true help, something that mocking does not accomplish anything constructive and makes you less of a person. It isn’t Christ-like either as Jesus never mocked.
Why should I care about how Jesus felt when he deliberately got himself killed (the essence of substitutionary atonement)?
Thiessen also thinks I should act Christ-like. Really? Why? Why should I care one whit about the dead man named Jesus? Besides, it’s hilarious to have a hateful, bigoted narcissist giving me life advice. No thanks.
Thiessen seems to forget I’m an atheist. He also forgets that I think his religion is a cult that causes untold harm. I want to do all I can to bury Theissen’s bankrupt religion in the depths of the seas, never to be seen or heard from again. I plan on mocking and laughing at his religion until I die.
Bruce Gerencser, 67, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 46 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.
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Well you need to trot over to the God permission store and GET SOME.
What is wrong with that guy? What a twatwaffle.
He loves to dictate terms to others, yet won’t abide by his own conditions.
Why make fun of something people believe in?
Because it’s funny?
You have my permission
Why do I think this guy has no problem demeaning and insulting members of any other religion or belief system that does not align with his particular beliefs?
Ben—I was thinking the same thing.
This guy has the writing skills of a 5th….Maybe an advanced 5th grader, but a 5th grader nonetheless.
Hmm. Let’s review some of Derrick’s greatest hits. Derrick’s big thing recently has been criticizing anyone who takes a compassionate view toward people violating the law, specifically U.S. immigration law.
Derrick, by contrast, violated U.S. immigration law for several years and found some questionable interpretations to assert that he didn’t. He overstayed a visa that he believed could be extended so long as he left the country periodically. His idea of “leaving the country periodically”? Driving to a border town, crossing the border into Mexico, standing there for a few minutes, and coming back across the border. Thus he had “left the U.S.” and therefore asserted he was complying with the terms of his six-month visa multiple years after the document’s expiration date. But remember, kids, we need to penalize the brown people who do this, certainly not white, Christian, blond-haired Derrick.
Derrick illegally registered to vote in at least three U.S. states that I’m aware of. He used a fake name and signed an attestation that he was a U.S. citizen, which he is not. His justification? “It doesn’t say it’s illegal to register, just to actually vote.” But remember, kids, we need to tighten voter-registration laws to protect us against … (checks notes) … the white people who voted fraudulently Republican in the last election. Like white, Christian, blond-haired Derrick. Oh, no, I’m sorry, I mean brown people.
Derrick got jobs … for 20 minutes at a time, true, but jobs nonetheless … telling employers “I am legally authorized to work in the U.S. and here’s my social security number.” He stole the social security number from an ex-girlfriend. I suspect his divine “call” to go to Korea in 2002 at least partially coincides with when employers started checking this information a little more carefully post-9/11. But now he’s all over his righteous indignation that jobs are being taken by illegal immigrants using forged documentation. Oh, wait, I’m sorry, he and his fellow red hats are only opposed to brown people doing that, not white, Christian, blond-haired men like Derrick.
Derrick still calls himself “David Thiessen” or “D. David Thiessen.” This was the name he put on paperwork to gain entrance into the U.S. and to obtain “an American identification card” (not precisely sure what this means). Neither of these were iterations of his legal name at the time, and as far as I know, they still aren’t. But when brown people use fake IDs, they’re criminals. White, blond-haired, Christian Derrick was just mad at his heathen family and took a false identity to hide from them. Note that “inviting his father to visit at least twice” constitutes “hiding from them.”
Ah, yes, but the brown people are criminals! Derrick, on the other hand, is a peace-loving family man. He once had an altercation with his domestic partner that threatened to turn physical, but that wasn’t domestic violence. His partner went into a bedroom to speak privately to her mother, and he threatened, loudly, to kick the door down if she ever did so again. But that was a threat against an inanimate door (and the phone that he broke during that altercation), certainly not an act of domestic assault. Brown people, on the other hand, worship a religion that codifies subservience and misogyny, unlike Derrick, who as a white, blond-haired Christian man, endorses the words of the misogynist Paul who “wishes women would keep silent” rather than the Jesus whose ministry had several prominently-placed women.
The Bible tells us to “be prepared to give an answer.” Derrick has had multiple chances to answer me and to engage substantively with Bruce. But he worships at the McDonald’s drive-thru lane of a man who displays the the exact opposite of the “fruits of the Spirit” (self-control, patience, goodness, gentleness, etc.) and unfortunately for white, blond-haired Christian Derrick, I’m not easily targeted by a plate full of ketchup. But I am easily ignored by him, which is why I know he won’t respond to this. Hope the organization in Manila I reached out to about him can be ignored as easily.
Clarification. Has he been diagnosed with schizophrenia? I can’t recall the comment you left that mentioned it and I can’t remember the context.
Have I seen a piece of paper with his name and an ICD-10 code on it with a medical professional’s signature? No. Have I seen documentation where he acknowledged manifesting symptoms of it and refused treatment? Yes.
I subscribe to equal opportunity mocking myself. I don’t discriminate against any ridiculous beliefs, no matter what the source. If the beliefs are ridiculous, they’re worthy of ridicule, period. There, does that make it better?
Nice Heinlein quote, “One man’s theology is another man’s belly laugh.” If you don’t want us to point and laugh, stop doing things that make us point and laugh.
Dr T: can’t criticize Christians or Christianity? He’s the essence of Christian nationalism. Good thing he’s not in the US now. We have enough of his type of crackpots.
Christians need to “need to remember how they felt when Jesus was mocked when he was being crucified”???
So, um, even assuming that that was an actual event that actually happened to an actual person (divine or not) there… um… there weren’t any Christians around. Christians didn’t exist yet. The Apostles? Jewish. Jesus himself? Jewish. Which makes that a really weird memory to appeal to, unless Mr. Thiessen is a very great deal older than any of us expect.
I’m assuming he means that Christians should remember learning that Jesus was mocked on the cross, but darkest gods, the clarity of writing here is… dim.
Not that you asked, but he’s 64 years old.
He is now scouring the Internet looking for dirt on me. 🤣🤣 Have at it, big boy. 🤣🤣
https://thoughtsandrantings.com/2014/07/05/im-done-with-bruce-gerencser/
Gasp! What a find! 🤣🤣This man is an IFB sociopath. He threatened to come to my home and murder me by slitting my throat. So, Derrick, he’s your kind of “Christian.”
I am disappointed. 😀 Until I read the link and the timestamp, I thought that DDT was finally done with you.
The guy who wrote that post is a rabid, nasty IFB Christian. He used to comment on a previous iteration of this blog years ago. When I crossed him, he became quite violent. In retrospect, I should have reported him to the FBI. He only likes a couple of hours from our home. I do admit, at the time, that we were fearful over what he might do.
Derrick,
My life is an open book. I’ve been married to the same woman for forty-four years. I am father to six adult children and grandfather to thirteen munchkins. Unlike yours, my closet has a bright light.
I’ve been open about my employment history, accounting for every one of the churches I pastored. Search high and low, Derrick, you will find sqadoosh about me. I’ve openly said I filed for bankruptcy, and why I had to do so. If someone has a question about my life, ask and I’ll answer.
You see, Derrick, unlike you I don’t live a secret life using a fake name. Unlike you, I haven’t abandoned my family, fraudulently used someone’s social security number, or committed domestic violence. I’ve lived an honorable life. Flawed, to be sure, but honorable nonetheless.
Sure, you can find a few blogs that have published their negative opinions about me. That happens. I’m a public figure, a vocal critic of Evangelicalism. I’m fine with people disagreeing with me. What I’m not fine with is when Jesus-loving assholes like you attack my character or attack my wife/children.
Keep digging, Derrick. Search the Internet far and wide. Maybe you will stumble upon my porno pictures from back when I was a Secret Santa Stripper at the strip club in Zanesville, Ohio. My stage name was Hunka Hunka Santa. Please share them the ten readers of your blog when you find them. I want the world 🌎 to “see” my sexy body.
Bruce Almighty
I’ll happily mock, ridicule and revile Chritian nonsense just the same as I do nazi garbage.
Thiessen is on a roll:
https://theologyarchaeology.wordpress.com/2022/08/13/we-have-been-challenged-to-a-debate/
He just found out I wrote the forward for David Madison’s first book! Gasp! The audacity of me. Worse, the publisher even paid me to write it!
He also found my interview with Doug Berger and West Lake Erie Humanists. Wow! I do interviews! Lots of them too. Just check out this page:
http://brucegerencser.net/media-interviews/
Keep,searching, Derrick. Who knows what else you might find! Those porno pictures are out there. Fox Mulder says they are out there. You will find them if you search really, really, really hard.
From his post:
BG issued the challenge a week or so ago and we have been thinking about it. We have watched different debates in the past, Craig Evans vs. Bart Ehrman and others to name one.
We never saw anything good come out of those debates and we do not think anything good will come out of doing one with BG. After all, he doe snot have an open mind and all he wants to do is the following:
“I want to do all I can to bury Theissen’s bankrupt religion in the depths of the seas, never to be seen or heard from again. I plan on mocking and laughing at his religion until I die.”
and
“If you know of a song that is irreverent towards religion, makes fun of religion, pokes fun at sincerely held religious beliefs, or challenges the firmly held religious beliefs of others, please send me an email. (source)”
We have also read what other people have said about BG and he has been quoted as saying:
I”’ve written before that, you know, evangelicalism is one of the most hated sects in America. And it is. And the reason is is because of their narrow mindedness, they’re hatefulness, they have Bible verses for everything. (source)”
You really cannot debate people with such animosity and hatred towards what you believe. One may hope that the content would be used to turn some unbeliever’s life around but that may or may not happen.
We are still thinking about it but do not hold your breath. We are tired of hearing ‘his story’ in every article, he writes as well as an introduction to a book for another person mad at God. He needs to get past that telling and re-telling his story every time someone says hi to him.
We figure that tired old news will be part of the debate and it will bore us to death :). One thing we know will happen if we decide to do this debate is that BG will remain an unbeliever and dig his hole even deeper with God.
We just do not want to be a part of that.
Debates with people like Mr Tee are a waste of time. He can’t bring anything to the debate that hasn’t been said, and debunked, a thousand times but it gives him a (unearned) sense of credibility. In any event, I don’t think he has the courage to expose himself to the world, given that he appears to be a fugitive from justice.
Nah, it’s simpler than that. For one thing, Derrick is a coward. That’s why he chose a quadriplegic for his plan to legitimize his plan to stay in the U.S. (you know, marriage of convenience, anchor baby, all the things that are evil when brown people do it). He didn’t think she’d fight back. If I were a betting man, I’d bet that played a role in his decision to go specifically to Korea, where subservience by women is more ingrained into the culture and he could find the sort of wife he wanted.
So, cowardice is one reason.
The second reason: he knows perfectly well that you have information to irrefutably prove the charges against him. And what’s more, he knows that I have, and/or have access to, even more than that.
That’s why he leaves me alone entirely – human attributes such as jealousy or spiritual apathy cannot be attributed to pieces of paper, so he can’t claim, for example, that his refusal to pay his court-ordered $180ish a month is a mere disinclination to financially support worldliness. He knows that if he were to ever challenge the veracity of anything I, in particular, have said, it would not go well for him.
So to summarize:
Reason #1: he’s a coward.
Reason #2: he can’t pretend the documentation in the case against him doesn’t say what it says.
Reason #3: Scripture tells us that the righteous are as bold as lions. Trust me, Derrick has never had a problem claiming to be either bold or righteous (not that he is, but the hubris is there nonetheless). Still, he’s not (entirely) stupid and knows claiming righteousness where I’m concerned would be a Very Bad Idea. And with me aligning with you and Ben, throwing down with either of you would be as well. So he just cloaks his cowardice in an unwillingness to deal with you, and pretends I don’t exist, which, hey, he’s got 23 years of practice pretending people inconvenient to his lifestyle don’t exist.
Reason #4: he’s a coward.
Silly question I guess — does he acknowledge your comments or his rotten history at all? (I refuse to visit his dumb blog.)
No. The extent of the coverage I’ve gotten on his blog is as follows:
Blog entry 21 June 2022, “When People Hate You” (truncated a bit for brevity):
Everything said in this specific post is said with a lot of heartfelt kindness … Recently, we received an e-mail from someone who stated they hated us. We never met the person before and had no direct contact with them. Yet they hated us and not because of what we write on our websites.
We knew that attitude would be in that person because sinful third parties told us what they were going to do and there was nothing we could really do about it. The author of that particular e-mail was a victim of those sinful third parties’ evil deeds yet the author decided to direct their hatred and anger toward us.
There really is nothing you can do when a person takes that stance … A Christian cannot approach the people like that author as their closed mind does not let them see the truth and they can get angrier if one tries …
The one that wrote us chose to believe the lies and half-truths told him or her, (they did not leave a name), We know they were lies and half-truths as we know the whole story.
We are not getting involved because we do not want that author to hate the people who did this to him or her. …
They are taking someone’s word for what happened even though the words they received were not true. That is wrong and makes them as bad as the third parties that planned this direction.
Now, first and foremost, I never said I hated him. Derrick, I know you’re reading this … prove me wrong. Show me where in that e-mail I said I hated you. Even better, perhaps transcribe that entire e-mail. (Wait, wait, don’t tell me … you deleted it in a fit of magnanimity and not at all in a fit of “oh, no, my chickens have come home to roost” or of “if the e-mail doesn’t exist, nobody can prove what I say about it is a lie”, didn’t you?)
Second, they’re not half-truths. Derrick knows this. That’s why he’s taking the tack of “I’m not going to respond to this because I think it would be pointless” just as he takes the tack of “I’m not going to debate Bruce because it’s pointless.” He can’t very well say “I’m not going to respond to this because there’s too much of a risk of the facts coming out before I have the chance to massage them.”
Second appearance was in his next blog entry of 24 June 2022, wherein he bemoaned the fact that the world persists in reminding you of your sins when God has forgiven them. Derrick seems to have forgotten the lesson David faced after stepping out with Bathsheba. God forgave him, but there had still been consequences for David’s sin and God’s forgiveness didn’t mean David wouldn’t have to face them. But anyway …
“One of the most important verses for the Christian is this one: “But if you do not forgiveother people, then your Father will not forgive your offenses. (Mt. 6:15)”
We heard from that letter writer again and we have forgiven him or her for the hatred they have sent our way. We have also forgiven BG for the horrible words he keeps writing about us. It is up to both of those parties to forgive if they want to have their sins forgiven.
When Jesus was on the cross, some of his final words were ‘forgive them for they know not what they do..’ That is the way it is with unbelievers they do not know what they are doing. They are blinded by hatred, deceit, lies, and more.
They think they know what they are doing but they don’t. Turn the other cheek and let God deal with them.”
Again, never said I hated him. Told him he was misrepresenting the facts of the situation. Demanded he explain himself. Never said I hated him. Also, Derrick’s testimony is that he was saved as a young man, so some time in the late 1970s/early 1980s. The events I was referencing span the late 1990s, so they aren’t the actions of a misguided, wayward soul who received blanket forgiveness from God upon praying the Sinner’s Prayer.
And even if that were the case, to continue my earlier metaphor, Uriah and King David’s child are both still dead – or, if you prefer, Derrick still has DV restraining orders, an unpaid child-support obligation, an abandoned child, and a stolen identity. Also, David still isn’t his legal name, unless he went to court and legally changed it (although you’d think he would have said something by now if he had).
Other than that? Nothing. He’s got no problem calling Ben a liar. He’s got no problem questioning the legitimacy of Bruce’s birth. Me? Crickets. I’ve even tried to get him to engage with me and he won’t.
Part of it may be that he doesn’t know who I am, so he can’t be sure of what lies to peddle. I think he initially suspected I was either his estranged ex-wife or the child he abandoned. I told him, truthfully, that I am neither, nor am I the woman whose identity he stole, the woman whose life he wreaked havoc on when she offered him a place to land after he was kicked out of the marital home, or the woman with whom he repeated history in the early 2000s. But even though I’m not them, I can document the havoc he wreaked upon them. So instead he takes a page from Mr. Rogers, who once noted that children believe the world goes away when they close their eyes. Derrick, similarly, believes that if he doesn’t acknowledge that Uriah’s death, he doesn’t have to admit to arranging it.
OH NO Bruce! Dr T is sick of the fact you write about yourself…on your blog. If he’s so sick of you, why doesn’t he just buzz off? Leave you alone? Forget you exist? Because he wants to continue to engage with you. He’s a liar. (Congrats on being paid to write a book forward!!)
How dare Bruce use his website to talk about himself! What an outrageous notion!
We know what it is like to be mocked, we have had to endure it since childhood. It is never fun. We learned not to do it by how we felt when it was done to us. besides, mocking is not part of ‘loving thy neighbor as thyself’.
This part stood out to to me, for David/Derrick has repeatedly mocked me, called me an idiot etc, which is surely very-much against loving thy neighbour.
Derrick said, “We never saw anything good come out of those debates and we do not think anything good will come out of doing one with BG.” He’s right. Nothing good would come out of that kind of debate…for Derrick. Because if it ever happened, he’d get creamed.
someone described his writing skills as being roughly fifth grade (ten years old or thereabouts) To use the parlance of that age group: “boy, is he stuck up” Aside: I thought pride was considered a sin.