Questions: Have the Comments on This Site Changed Over the Years?

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Geoff asked:

What changes have you seen, if any, to the types of comment you receive to your posts over the many years you’ve been going? There’s been a huge advance in the quality of comment on dedicated atheist websites, where it’s more about taking the arguments and the evidence to apologists, but this is not really one of those sites, being more about the practical implications of being a nonbeliever living in a religious culture. Obviously there are the silly commenters like Revival Fires, but what about more general comments?

Blog comments have always been an important part of this site. Since December 2014, 53,000 comments have been left by readers. The stated goal of The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser has been to provide help to those who have questions and doubts about Christianity and those who have already left Christianity. While some posts are outliers to this goal, for the most part, I have stayed true to my goal: helping others navigate having questions about or leaving primarily Evangelical Christianity.

Over the years, millions of people have stopped by this site. People come and go, often without a word about why. Most readers never comment or send me an email, so I am uncertain as to how my writing has been received by them. As far as commenters are concerned, I do wonder why certain people stop commenting. Did I piss them off? Maybe. I suspect that the real reason is they may have found my writing not as helpful as it once was, or they disagree with my progressive, liberal, socialist, pacifist politics. Nothing I can do about that. I’m not going to change my beliefs for the sake of readership numbers. While the Orange Menace, President Donald Trump, has certainly amped up my political writing in recent years, I don’t think anyone would say this is a political blog.

This blog was a deconstruction/ex-evangelical site long before these words came into popular, everyday use. The other day, I stumbled upon a three-year-old social media post about me. The writer, a Christian, wanted to know if anyone had heard of an atheist named Bruce Gerencser. He wondered why I wasn’t part of the atheist mainstream, suggesting I must have done something “bad” to be marginalized by atheists.

I have contented myself to stay in my lane. I am not a big self-promoter, so I am not going to contact an atheist (or Christian) site or podcast to sell myself to them. I’ve been blogging since 2007, first as a barely-hanging-on liberal-leaning Evangelical Christian, and then, after deconverting in 2008, as an atheist. Over the years, I have been interviewed by blogs, websites, magazines, newspapers, and appeared on numerous podcasts, which you can access here. From time to time, journalists contact me for information about Evangelicalism in general, and the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church movement. In all of this, I have not promoted myself one time. I rely on word of mouth and personal recommendations to spread the good news that “Bruce Gerencser Saves.” S&H Green Stamps (for older readers)? No, but I have helped “save” countless people from the clutches of Evangelical Christianity and other Fundamentalist religions. I know this because I hear from people thanking me for helping them deconstruct, deconvert, or move on to kinder, gentler forms of religious faith.

I have also been labeled a follower of Satan; an enemy of Christianity. Thousands of comments have been left by Evangelicals upset over something I wrote. The attacks, at times, have been brutal, so much so that I stopped blogging several times years ago. I have been blogging continuously now for almost thirteen years. On this iteration of my blog, I have written over 6,000 posts.

In the early days of this site, the comment section was flooded with comments from butthurt IFB adherents, including pastors, evangelists, and missionaries. These folks have largely stopped commenting, leading me to claim victory! 🙂 Not really. I suspect they either became bored, or, unable to successfully challenge my claims, moved on to easier targets for their sermons, proof-texts, and shallow, contradictory apologetics.

Geoff mentioned the evolving and improved content and comments on some atheist sites, and I agree with him. The online atheist community is changing. Out goes the old guard, and in comes a new batch of atheists to hopefully lead the community forward. Shows such as The Atheist Experience and Talk Heathen are mere shadows of what they once were; other sites such as Almost Ian, the DZ Debates (Justin), The Bible Guy, Mythvision, Harmonic Atheist, Jon Cohen, and the various shows on Jimmy Snow’s network, The Line, to name a few. Whether these content creators have long-term success remains to be seen.

I continue to wonder why so many atheist readers come and go. Do they get what they need from me and move on, or do they find my writing boring? I don’t know, outside of the fact that I know some atheists stopped frequenting this site because of what they perceived from me was an unwarranted friendliness towards religion. Some atheists have even suggested that I am a “secret Christian.” None of these claims is true, as the vitriol dumped on my head by God’s chosen ones surely shows.

I am not sure what more I can do to attract more commenters. Typically, the people who comment are regular, long-term readers, with a few new readers’ comments sprinkled in. Gone are the long running arguments and debates over this or that religious belief or practice. Why this is no longer the case remains unclear to me. The comment section has a friendlier tone these days, more like friends getting together on a Friday night at the local pub.Usually it’s bottom feeders such as Dr. David Tee, Revival Fires, and others who provide entertainment, but none of them is up to the task of cogently defending the “faith once delivered to the saints.” These folks are little more than monkeys who fling shit at those they disagree with. No real arguments or defenses of Christianity. Instead, they resort to personal attacks and character assassination. Such people are the price you pay for having a public blog.

Over the years, the comment policy has changed, moving from a wild, wild west format to more of a controlled environment where every commenter is given at least one opportunity to say whatever they want to me. Whether they get a second comment depends on how well they play with others. I am much more likely to ban or block someone today than I was years ago. After you have heard the same Bible nonsense and personal attacks over and over and over again, it’s easy to say to yourself “I don’t want to hear this drivel any more.”

Recently, I have thought about loosening up the comment policy, but I fear that doing so might run off commenters who prefer the walled garden approach I currently use. I know I can’t please everyone, but your thoughts on this matter would be helpful.

Here’s the comment policy that has been in effect for the past four years:

All commenters are expected to use a functioning email address. The use of a fake or non-functioning email address will result in your comment being deleted.

Pseudonyms are permitted. Please use the same pseudonym with every comment. 

All first-time comments and comments with more than one HTML link are moderated.

Before commenting, please read the ABOUT page to acquaint yourself with my background. You might also want to read the Dear Evangelical page.

Evangelical commenters will be given one opportunity to say whatever they want. One, not two, three, or ten. Just one. Quote the Bible. Preach the sermon God has laid upon your heart. Put in a good word for Jesus. Deconstruct my life. Call me names, attack my family. You have one opportunity to impress readers with your John Holmes-like Bible prowess. After that, the following rules apply:

The following type of comments will not be approved after your first comment:

  • Preachy/sermonizing comment
  • Extensive Bible verse quoting comment (limited Bible-quoting permitted)
  • Evangelizing comment
  • “I am praying for you” comment
  • “You are going to Hell” comment
  • “You never were saved” comment
  • “You never were a Christian” comment
  • Any comment that is a personal attack
  • Any comment that attacks the readers of this blog
  • Any comment that is not on point with what the post is about
  • Any comment that denigrates or marginalizes abuse victims
  • Any comment that attacks LGBTQ people
  • Unsolicited medical advice of any kind (and I mean ANY)
  • Any comment that disparages my wife, children, or grandchildren

Please be advised that personal threats of violence or stalking will be reported to your service provider and law enforcement. 

I write about issues that might not be child-friendly. Please be aware of this. I also use profanity from time to time, and I allow the use of profanity in the comment section. Any butt-hurt comment about language will be ignored, and if warranted, ridiculed.

The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser is not a democracy where anyone has a right to say whatever they want. This is my personal blog and I reserve the right to approve or not approve any comment. When a comment or a commenter is abusive towards the community of people who read this blog, I reserve the right to ban the commenter.

If you can be respectful, decent, and thoughtful, your comment will always be approved. Unfortunately, there are many people — Evangelical/Fundamentalist Christians in particular — who have a hard time playing well with others. They often use a passive-aggressive approach towards me and the non-Christian people who frequent this blog. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated and will result in a permanent ban.

This blog is also not a place for hardcore atheists to preach the gospel of atheism. While I am an atheist, many of the people who read this blog are not. Frank, honest, open, and passionate discussion about religion, Christianity, and Evangelicalism is encouraged and welcome. However, I do expect atheists not to attack, badger, or denigrate people who still believe in God. If you are respectful, decent, and thoughtful, you will be fine.

My writing is direct and pointed and so is my response to comments. Please do not confuse my directness and pointedness with me attacking you or your religion. This is a grown-up blog, so crying that I offended you or “attacked” your religion will fall on deaf ears.

If you can play by these rules, I hope you will become a part of our community and join the discussion.

— end of comment policy

Do you see something in the comment policy that you think should be changed or done away with? Or is there something you would like to see added to policy? Please share your ideas with me in comment section.

In closing, I can’t help but note how my declining health has affected this site. I was once known as a prodigious blogger, writing several posts a day. Sadly, I can no longer put out like I once did — yes, there’s a sex joke lurking in that line. I have really struggled with this issue, wondering if it is time for me to stop writing. My friends, acquaintances, and family continue to encourage me to keep writing, but when you have multiple days when you can’t even get out of bed, it’s hard to find the energy and stamina to write a text message, let alone a blog post. That said, I still try. I still push myself, even when I want to curl up on the couch and be left alone My sleep is so disturbed these days, that I sleep when I can, usually in short one- to two-hour blocks. Yesterday, I never made it out of bed, spending the day fitfully sleeping while family gathered at our home to celebrate the best mother ever. I had slept for six hours straight, but that was due to only getting a total of five hours sleep over the previous three days. This, of course, has severely messed up my schedule, forcing me to live in the moment instead of on a schedule. I can’t say I have adapted well to my new reality. I’m too old for this shit, but no one asked me, so I take every day as it comes.

Suggestions are welcome. You know what to do!

Bruce Gerencser, 69, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 48 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.

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25 responses to “Questions: Have the Comments on This Site Changed Over the Years?”

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    Your wisdom and insight is very helpful in our world. I hope you will keep writing as much as you can, as long as you can. Thank you.

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      Thanks, Bob. I have appreciated your friendship and support over the years!

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    Linn

    Hi, Bruce,
    As a Christian, I’ve appreciated your honest comments and observations that have helped me to keep my atheist/agnostic friends. You have helped me avoid the hamster wheel of repetition of things they’ve probably heard too many times.My original church was IFCA, and I finally fled, and I enjoy your sense of humor about them. Write as much as you feel you can. I think there will always be some ready to read what you write.

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      Awesome to see your comment, Lynn. ❤️❤️ It’s been awhile since you last commented.

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    Jimmy

    I will second the comment by Mr. Farnsworth. My regret is that I didn’t discover this blog sooner. Even though your writing has decreased recently I still light up when I get an email notification about a new post. In addition I enjoy reading comments from other readers who are far more learned than I am. Yet I don’t want to leave out Revival Fires, and David Tee though. I really do laugh hard into my computer screen when reading their absurd graffiti that pollutes this blog.

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      Thanks, Jimmy. ❤️❤️ I view Tee and Revival Fires as entertainment, albeit their wretched beliefs are believed by countless Evangelical Christians. I wish they were rare exceptions, but they are not. 😢😢 So, from that perspective I think it is important to respond to them, exposing the bankrupt Christianity both of them practice.

  4. I hope you are able to keep writing, so many people would miss your blog. 🙂
    I don’t even know how long I’ve been reading what you write, 15 years?
    In my personal life, I seem to feel better about things in the past when I bring them out over and over and examine what happened and who did what. Having been raised by Evangenital Christians, I’ve had to do a lot of recovering. Your blog has been instrumental in that.

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      Thank you, my friend. I don’t know how long we’ve been friends, but it has been a long time. Fifteen years works for me.

      You have been a wonderful supporter and friend. In real life, I have no doubt we would be friends — your hubby too lest anyone think some nefarious is going on. It is, but I shall not give them the satisfaction of knowing what is going on. 🤣

      I can think of only two times we had a disagreement, and the disagreements were more about nuance than substance. The number of vaccines we give children comes to mind, along with a disagreement about an aspect of homeschooling that has long ago left my mind.

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    John S.

    Bruce, you have been an awesome online friend to me as well as many others. You will never satisfy people who want perfection, regardless of where they fall on the spectrum of religious belief, politics, etc. We are all on a journey, and you have been immensely helpful on my own. As Mr. Rogers would say, “You are great just the way you are”.

  6. ” Gone are the long running arguments and debates over this or that religious belief or practice. ”

    I suppose I could start a debate by asking if Jesus existed. If one reads the early writings of Paul, of the book of Hebrews, and the writings of Clement, without clouding them with what we read in the gospels which came later, we find the life of Jesus strangely absent. Paul has little concern for whether Jesus actually existed, whether an apostle actually had a special experience of living with God on Earth, whether earthly miracles happened, etc. Instead he tells us that he learned from the scriptures (or rather, superimposed on the scriptures) that a Jesus would die to save us, but never talks about where. Paul seems more interested in talking about an imaginary friend in the heavens rather than a recent Earthly event. The gospel stories all come later, beginning with Mark, which seems to bill itself as a religious parable, not a book of history.

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      JT

      As a Christian for many years, I never realized how little Jesus was in the writings attributed to Paul until recently. Also, Paul’s gospel doesn’t exactly match what Jesus taught… One that comes to mind is that Jesus said that (my paraphrase) as long as heaven and earth existed, not one bit of the law would be done away with… Paul said that Jesus’ death was the end of the law…

      In my best Yoda voice… many questions have I regarding this matter

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        Karen the rock whisperer

        “Regarding this question, many questions I have.” Gotta quote the master correctly. 🙂

        Reading Ehrman and other secular scholars about biblical literature really opened my eyes, too. Paul was undoubtedly a charismatic religious leader, and tuned into whatever the circulating stories about Jesus were, but his deeply subjective personal experience of revealed truth seems to have been his primary motivator.

        I’ve seen it suggested that the strains of Christianity which place Paul’s letters and Acts above the gospels in importance be called Paulianity. Being an atheist, I don’t have personal skin in this game, but it seems reasonable to me. My Catholic upbringing emphasized Jesus, the Golden Rule, and the importance of tending to “the least of these”; I attended Catholic schools from first through 12th grades, schools run by liberal nuns, and their emphasis on how to treat other people is still a guiding force for me. Oh, wait, Evangelicals (Paulians?) think Catholics aren’t Christians.

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    GeoffT

    I was interested to see your list of atheist sites and channels, and noted Jon Cohen. I’ve only come across him fairly recently, and was intrigued that an English guy would run such a channel. Somehow I associate these with the US, whereby there is an ongoing struggle to free itself from the shackles of religious belief, especially fundamentalism. I find Cohen to be extremely knowledgeable, polite in the extreme, whilst maintaining firm determination, and actually a bit of a relief after listening to Matt Dillahunty lose his temper yet again! I also like that he largely hosts the show himself, with a hidden voice occasionally adding to the mix. The US practice of having two hosts is often meaningless when one effectively takes over the show entirely.

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    My interest in blogging was to tell my story and come alongside others living out a similar story. For me, there was a lot of religious trauma and if telling my story not only helped me or another, it was worth it. However, I wasn’t willing to be martyred for it. When I saw a former Christian struggling or a newbie secularist on the scene I wanted to say hello, if anything to offer support. If I met or joined in with an atheist crowd I tried to bring to the table my own humanity and had patience with the believers (for the most part. Again, boundaries.)

    From my experience, looking back, there was always more to the story than was often shared with the new “former &/or doubting Christian.” Beyond the black and white, there was grey and nuance we often didn’t share because those parts of us were shut down in our early and later years. A lot of hurt. A lot of confusion. So much shame. A truck load of guilt. And a complete loss of authenticity. Many of us groomed to leave our brains at the door and submit to an abusive patriarchy that did so many in. Especially, to women and children. Though the men didn’t realize they were victims too.

    It’s incredible the changes over the years. For me, I only have so much energy. But, I manage to check in every day if I can. I pop into Ark’s and Nan’s from time to time. I listen to podcasts that I find educational. Straight White American Jesus is my fav.

    I think you have given so much to the blogging world Bruce. I personally have benefited in the area of expanding on my own thoughts and opinions and managing to get them down on the keyboard.

    When I look back I am grateful for the chance to be part of your online existence. 🙂

  9. He wondered why I wasn’t part of the atheist mainstream, …

    There is a small group of atheist loudmouth. Most atheist are just going about their lives. And since they constitute most atheists, I would consider that to be the real mainstream.

    You are part of the mainstream. The Christian writer who raised this issue is mistaking the loudmouths for the mainstream.

    I continue to wonder why so many atheist readers come and go.

    I have come, but I haven’t gone. I don’t often comment, but I do read your posts. I don’t always read all of the comments, mostly because your comments feed is not working.

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    Revival Fires

    Atheism is a sad sad yet funny thing not even the demons fell into that trap.

    James 2:19

    One day everyone here will face Christ and be shown every time they heard the gospel and rejected it. 😭

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      John S.

      Yep, and I’m sure Revival Liars, people who claimed to be Christian will have to account for all the times they pestered a decent older man by (trying) to post obscene sexual comments on his page, among other things.

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      GeoffT

      Well RF, I guess we’ll meet again in the eternal fires of hell. There aren’t many things in life that are certain but one thing that is: Jesus doesn’t want you anywhere near him!

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    JW

    I was a fairly active commenter for a couple of years while I was working through an emotionally and intellectually painful deconstruction (a word I didn’t know when I started that journey). Writing down and sharing what I was going through, in a largely non-judgemental community, was the therapy I needed to work through it. That took some time, years from start to finish. When I was done there wasn’t much more I felt I needed to say. This, combined with a moderately introverted personality and a couple bad experiences with social media in general, saw me mostly withdrawing from active participation across the board.

    I still read the site though, almost daily. While there is some content (and commenters) that I have little interest in, I still glean useful insights from you and others. I also get a sense of vicarious community here, even without actively participating.

    I use a VPN for additional online security and privacy. I suspect many regulars do also. The incoming IP addresses and browser tags may change, but that doesn’t mean we’re gone.

    Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom over the years. This site was what I needed when I found it.

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    Barbara Jackson

    You have helped me by telling your story and the complexity within it, and by seeing comments from others. You do not fit any particular mold and have allowed me to do that. At your blog I feel safe to tell my story and my feelings.

    I am very scared right now because of the Supreme Court throwing out the Voting Rights Act. Again, I feel it is like my childhood/teenage experiences in Franco’s Spain and visiting East Germany are coming back again. There can be dictatorships on both right/religious and left/atheist sides of the spectrum.

    I am tired of people in the USA trying to force “christian values” on me. I never wanted to be a mother and did not do it. My psychologist says I am non-conforming. I went straight for history, math, science, and technology.

    I did not conform in the IT world. I talked too much. IT is also very ageist so when the younger managers got into our group of systems analysts/programmers they tried to fire me. They could not because I was an employee and they had to work with personnel who sent me to Worker’s Compensation. They could not fire me because I got carpal tunnel in my wrists from typing and mousing for 30 years, so I was allowed to work more slowly. The only time they were happy with me was when they took me out for my goodbye lunch when I retired. This scar will be with me forever.

    I have told you this story again, but in your blog I have a safe place to do this. Just telling it helps me feel better. Make sure to take care of yourself and blog when you can.

  13. Burr Deming

    I find your self-description wanting in one respect.
    Omitted is your frequent friendliness to beliefs you have rejected.
    In the past, they have included even mine.

    I am a believer.
    When you criticize believers, I often find your comments can apply to me.
    They are usually sound, and they do affect my behavior – at least until my next lapse.

    I am grateful for your posts, Bruce, and I often find in them a remarkable degree of wisdom.

    One possible suggestion:
    When you find the need for rest and recovery, might you find someone of kindred thought to contribute for a while?

    I suspect such folks won’t be that hard to find.
    Perhaps not as talented, perhaps not as kind.
    You can’t have everything.

  14. BJW

    I regret that my energy level has been so low since I’ve known you. I put whatever energy I had into doing what was necessary to run my family, work, and daily chores. So I don’t make new friends anymore, at least, not in real life. (That sounds sad but I do have friends, just not close in proximity.) So I kind of enjoy it when I can make friends online.

    I had to quit commenting when Bob was sickest. I just didn’t have a bit of energy to fight religious or political battles, even mentally. As Bob got much better (he’s kicking cancer in the ass right now) my health plummeted. NEVER, ever get Covid when you have fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue (or any pain/fatigue condition). I had Long Covid for a year after getting Covid…on top of fibro.

    So I no longer spend hours reading about politics and religion. I do keep up but can only tolerate a small amount. I don’t let myself get agitated over the things a lot of liberals/leftists do. The American Empire is falling, the structural beams are weak and toppling over, one at a time. It is easier to focus on the attention grabbing stuff, but that seems to titillate more than help.

    Anyway, Bruce, I’m glad you have your loved ones and friends so close. And don’t worry if you can’t be prolific anymore. ANYTHING you put out, anytime, will have value. Good luck, my friend.

  15. I haven’t been a regular participant here for nearly as long as some of the others, so I can’t say I’ve seen a big shift in comments, but what I’ve seen is consistency from you Bruce, as well as a frightening lack of intelligence and logic from your regular detractors (and for that matter, any new detractors that pop up!).

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    JHCI

    I can’t remember when I first came across your blog, Bruce. Still, I have greatly enjoyed reading your posts for a long time!

    I suppose I am generally a more private person, so I am very choosy about what public blogs I comment on; the fact I finally made an account so I could comment here speaks to the quality and depth of your writing!

    If there is anything I can do to help you with your writing process, I am happy to assist as I am able! I’m sure I’m not the only one, as well!

  17. Melissa Montana

    I have enjoyed your writing since I first met you on Twitter. I don’t comment as much as I used to for one simple reason : my brain is tired. With fibro, stress, physical therapy, etc. I cannot think sometimes. I’m sure you can relate. Keep writing for as long as you can, but don’t let it kill you. I haven’t written in ages. I will again someday, but health comes first.

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