Dear Richard, the Evangelical Christian — Round Five

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In 2023, Richard, an Evangelical Christian, sent me an email, to which I responded in the post Dear Richard, the Evangelical Christian. Richard did not respond to my post, either by commenting or sending me an email. In 2024, Richard sent me another email, Dear Richard, the Evangelical Christian — Round Two. In 2025, Richard sent me another email, Dear Richard, the Evangelical Christian — Round Three, followed up with yet another email in 2026.

Richard decided to go the extra mile to get me to join his religious club by sending me yet another email. My response follows.  (All spelling, grammar, and punctuation in the original.)

Greetings Bruce:

God is not intimidated by His human creation at all.  An all-powerful being could impose His will on us and cause us to be automatons that fell into lockstep with His every whim.  That never was His intent.  He wants us to follow Him because we love Him and choose to believe He has our highest good as His primary goal.  He likewise gives us the choice to have nothing to do with Him.

It’s evident you have not actually read all of the Bible if you think it teaches libertarian freewill. I’m more than happy to debate this issue with you, but you must use the comment section to do so. I’m not interested in carrying on a private discussion with you. By commenting, you will give other readers the opportunity to interact with you too.

If you are unwilling to do so, I will give you one opportunity to say whatever you want to say in a post. I will publish your “sermon” unedited. After that, we’re done. We’re not friends, nor would I want to be based on your insufferable behavior.

Your last e-mail seemed to express disappointment that I did not ask you any questions.  God asks Job lots of questions about a whole variety of subjects in Job 38-41.  If you really want to answer questions, go ahead and answer those questions.  It is obvious that Job suddenly realized how out of his depth he really was when God started to ask him about things that only God had the answers to.

First, the invitation was for readers to ask me questions. All you did is preach, as you currently do in this email.

Second, you make claims for which you provide no evidence. You speak of a deity you assume everyone believes exists. I don’t, so quoting Bible verses ain’t going do much in providing me evidence for the existence of the Christian deity.

Let me address an area that bothered you.I appealed to his sense of propriety and decency, but Richard was having none of that. Instead, he callously said, “Bruce, we all are sick and all of us are suffering from a terminal illness for which we will one day die.” No compassion, respect, or common courtesy. All that matters in Richard’s mind is where I will go after I die.”

As someone who has several chronic health conditions which undoubtedly cause distress and discomfort, you have come to the conclusion that I am hard-hearted and callous by my lack of sympathy.The conditions you currently face may very well someday converge to the point where your death occurs sooner rather than later. I am mindful of this, but you were spot on in that last sentence when you  stated “All that matters in Richard’s mind is where I will go after I die. Eternity has no end.It goes on forever.I am very much concerned about that part of you that continues to live on after your sojourn on this planet is concluded.

Claims, claims, claims, Richard, for which you provide no evidence.

You are concerned about my soul; I don’t have one. Do you have evidence that suggests otherwise? Of course not.

Jesus once said, ” For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?” Matthew 16:26 KJV

You have no idea if Jesus actually said this. Do you have evidence that says otherwise? Of course not.

Bruce, it is very easy to major on the minor instead of minor on what is major.

All of us have our own wants, needs, and desires. Who are you to tell me what is important or not important in my life?

[Masturbatory Bible quotes deleted]

In closing, let me touch on one final theme that you take exception to. You claim that Jesus is dead. If that is the case, how come nobody has been able to produce the body? That would totally destroy the claims that Jesus rose from the dead.

Richard, surely you are not this stupid. Right? Come on, Dude, think. Billions of people have lived and died on our planet. The overwhelming majority of their bodies are nowhere to be found. Why would it be any different for a Jewish criminal named Jesus H. Christ? If the basic Bible account is true, Jesus was executed with two other criminals. After death, Jesus ended up the same place as they did: an unmarked pit grave, never to be seen again.

[Deleted Evangelical lies about most of the apostles being martyred for Christ. This claim is patently untrue. Either Richard knows this and is lying, or he lacks a basic understanding of Christian church history.]

Bruce, I do not write you to put you on the spot in front of an audience. I have a genuine concern for you. Romans 5:8 says, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. May God continue to lead and guide your steps aright!

I’m not concerned with that at all.

I don’t plan to further respond to you. There’s an offer on the table for you to write a post on a subject of your choosing, Feel free to preach away, knowing that this will be the last thing written by you published on this site.

Let’s see if you are respectful enough to honor my wishes. One and done, Richard. I can’t be clearer.

Bruce Gerencser, 69, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 48 years. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist.

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9 responses to “Dear Richard, the Evangelical Christian — Round Five”

  1. “You claim that Jesus is dead. If that is the case, how come nobody has been able to produce the body? That would totally destroy the claims that Jesus rose from the dead.”

    Seriously. I heard that Hitler is dead, too. But, no one has produced a body. Did that fucker rise from the dead??? Or, is he reincarnated in more of an orange disguise?

    If Richard wants anyone to take him seriously, he needs to do a LOT better!
    For me personally, I’ll invoke the same thing I’ve used when I get door knockers/god botherers for the last 20 years or so.

    “Send God over with a plate of cookies and I’ll believe.”

    Still waitin’ for the cookies.

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    I vote for […] “he lacks a basic understanding of Christian church history.”

    I wish Christians like Richard would spend more time with his brothers and sisters in Christ working to eliminate white supremacy, patriarchy, misogyny, fraud and spiritual abuse in the church. Imagine if you all looked in the mirror, recognized the mess your in, cleaned up your own house and demonstrated to the unbelievers how to care for the poor, feed the hungry and truly heal the sick (universal health care could be a start). Your issue is not with Bruce. It’s with your God, your corporate church and the body of Christ.

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    Revival “I Lie for Jesus” Fires

    The day will come when you will be shown every time you were told the truth of the gospel by Richard and John and James and David Tee and Revival Fires and many more that tried to warn you.

    It will then be too late as Bruce annd obstaclechicken and Geoff and Ben bird man and and many like then will plead “OH GOD NO NO!!!!! “ as they are cast into the lake of fire 🔥. 😭

    It’s so sad.

    1. No one cares what you think. You are a cruel coward, you have made that abundantly clear down the years, so why listen to you now?

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    Revival “I Lie for Jesus” Fires

    It is very sad that one day many like Ami and Zoe others will one day appear before Christ and will be shown every chance they had to be saved and rejected the gospel.

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      GeoffT

      Revival Fires, I feel desperately sorry for you. You’re so lost in the real world, possibly unemployed and few friends, that you’ve given yourself over entirely to the fantasy of some afterlife that doesn’t exist. Grow up and try and enjoy what’s left of the only life you’ll ever have!

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      I wish Christians like Revival Fires would spend more time with his brothers and sisters in Christ working to eliminate white supremacy, patriarchy, misogyny, fraud and spiritual abuse in the church. Imagine if you all looked in the mirror, recognized the mess your in, cleaned up your own house and demonstrated to the unbelievers how to care for the poor, feed the hungry and truly heal the sick (universal health care could be a start). Your issue is not with Bruce, Ami, Zoe, Bruce etc.. It’s with your God, your corporate church and the body of Christ.

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    Revival “I Lie for Jesus” Fires

    Geofft meoff,

    So sad. My friend you are going to find out just how big a “fantasy “ it is soon enough. So sad. 😭

    You will wish you had never been conceived….

    Weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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      John S.

      Revival Liars, have you had a near death experience (NDE)? If not, how do you know what the “judgement” for how we have lived this life will be? I know what the Bible says. I also know that Jesus many times mentioned trees being judged by their fruit, not their bark or leaves. He also mentioned people who said and believed all the right things but were lacking in empathy, justice and good works, much like what Zoe mentioned. So using your own standard (the Gospels), how will you yourself be judged?

      I’ve read some of things you tried to get posted, because Bruce wanted to show your “fruit” for us to see. Maybe you have repented of the mindset that finds humor in obscene sexual abuse, which would be a good thing. But if so, have you apologized to Bruce for being a jackass in Jesus’ clothing? Or to some of the regular readers to this site who have been the victim of sexual abuse in the past?

      I would take your admonitions more seriously if you could show that you are actually living according to the moral standard you are preaching.

      God bless.

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