The Sounds of Fundamentalism: If God Does Not Exist the Nazis Were Not Wrong by Todd Friel

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6 responses to “The Sounds of Fundamentalism: If God Does Not Exist the Nazis Were Not Wrong by Todd Friel”

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   July 9, 2016

   Brian

   Just because words can come out of the mouth in a specific order does not mean there is a God or no God. When a human being who is able to dress himself in a suit and then stand on a podium and suggest that making love and rape are no different to an atheist, then it is time for me to simply say, Shut your dumb pie-hole, you stupid stupid excuse for a biped. Shut your hateful mouth.
   Are people so deluded that they have actually given over their most basic common sense? Drinking water is the same as drinking gasoline if there is no God! And that he co-opts the Christian Crusades to prove that he is a real Christian© and they were doing it all wrong, I wretch. His is a mini-crusade against basic common sense! Here, drink the Kool-aid and say whatever on earth you feel like saying and stamp it with GOD truth. Sheesh. We are perhaps out of the caves but the shadows haunt us.

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   July 9, 2016

   B

   I do not even understand the points he is trying to make. Of course the nazis were wrong. Any moral person with basic ethics can discern that! And love is the same as rape?? Wth? What an idiot. We do not need an imaginary God’s rules – simple human decency, common sense, and REASON is all that is needsd

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      July 10, 2016

      Nick

      It’s a common failure of imagination. “My moral code comes from God, which is therefore the totality of what morality /is/.” Some people, no matter how much you explain, won’t understand that morality can come from somewhere other than where they believe theirs does.

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   July 9, 2016

   Geoff

   Oh dear, oh dear. No matter how many times the ‘objective morality’ claim is debunked, along comes some one thinking the case still has merit. Well, to quote Dave Silverman, people invented morality and religion took the credit.

   I think this is one of the most important of the cases that undermines the claims of religion because, no matter how many times the question is asked, not a single apologist has ever given an example of purely objective morality. And that’s because there is no such thing. If we adopt a different approach and ask about the morality of many of the actions taken by God in the OT, from near child murder via Abraham, to the genocidal destruction of every race ending in ‘ite’, then the inevitable response is ‘God had a reason’.

   The trap is sprung, and apologists fall into it every single time. If the action that appears wrong can be justified by its consequences then it ceases to be a morally objective action. God is a consequentialist. If a person carrying a knife arrives at my door and asks, angrily, if my daughter is in, I will say no, even though she may be upstairs. It’s morally wrong normally to lie, but any sane person would agree with my decision.

   I’d probably go further and say that relying on God as a source of morality is actually an immoral position; actions are right or wrong, depending at least in part on their consequence, and anyone whose behaviour is ruled by an outside source in the way claimed is simply shifting responsibility. He actually achieves the reverse of the position the commentator seeks to claim.

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   July 10, 2016

   glebealyth

   Unthinking fool!

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   September 17, 2020

   Yulya. Sevelova

   Just look at Todd Friel’s ditzy expression, that tells us all we need to know. All dictatorships are wrong there’s no such thing as a good one out there. Of course,Nazism was one, still is. Looks like Teump is trying to bring about the Fourth Reich as things stand right now. Anyone read about the heat ray devices Trump wants to use on protesters, yet ? He wanted them deployed for that Lafayette Park protest where he held up his unread Bible. The National Guard said no to the Park Police. It was on my phone today. Friel is a self-satisfied moron and needs a good thumping. I actually encountered church creeps who said that dictatorship is more moral than democracy, and that’s what America needs. This was years ago. I’d deck them if they said that to me today. Hard Right/Hard Left are more alike than different. Ya don’t want either one.

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